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blsmur Reader of Souls
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:44 am Post subject: boat on the river do you call or shove |
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I had no doubt about this hand based on the poker stove vs range idea
but would you go broke on it ?
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StasKo Grinder
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| how can you go broke with 90% equity?? |
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The Angler Baller

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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't tell you're putting him on quads PLEASE. |
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YATHINNK Reader of Souls
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| 100%, always in a million years, every day of the week, all night long, dancing on the ceiling, three times a lady shoving it. |
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Zipps Grinder
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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blsmur pls kill the nit in yourself you should look at it in that perspective: you are way ahead of his range and more worse hands than better hands will call your shove.
1. better hands that will call your shove: 99 (1combo), 96 (2 combos), 95 (6 combos), 93 (6 combos), 87hh (1combo)-->16 combos.
2. worse hands that will call your shove:
9x trips (72 combos) , flush (maybe 15 combos), straight 42 & 87 (32 combos)-->119 combos.
You could probably exclude some hands like 92o or 42o which he won't call preflop, but its still a lot of estimation and in that spot it wont make any difference. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Zipps wrote: | blsmur pls kill the nit in yourself you should look at it in that perspective: you are way ahead of his range and more worse hands than better hands will call your shove.
1. better hands that will call your shove: 99 (1combo), 96 (2 combos), 95 (6 combos), 93 (6 combos), 87hh (1combo)-->16 combos.
2. worse hands that will call your shove:
9x trips (72 combos) , flush (maybe 15 combos), straight 42 & 87 (32 combos)-->119 combos.
You could probably exclude some hands like 92o or 42o which he won't call preflop, but its still a lot of estimation and in that spot it wont make any difference. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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blsmur Reader of Souls
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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well guys I hate to disappoint you . I used to fold bottom fullhouse when I thought my opponent was to interested but as we are playing ranges i was so obviously in front
but in the back of my mind I am thinking he has me
I called or shoved cant remember exactly
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my gut when the 2nd 9 came down was he has a 9 and the only reason i pursued it further was it was cheap enough to go another street so this guy out played me with the best hand, and I think i am a moron for even being in the hand by the river . |
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chesslw Reader of Souls
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| blsmur wrote: | well guys I hate to disappoint you . I used to fold bottom fullhouse when I thought my opponent was to interested but as we are playing ranges i was so obviously in front...
and I think i am a moron for even being in the hand by the river . |
Firstly 66 isn't the nutworst fullhouse. And secondly, you are probably right in that you shouldn't have been in the hand by the river in the first place (look at how many chips were in the pot before the river).
However, once arrive at the river, there really isn't any other play apart from a shove.
If you posted the whole hand perhaps, then you might get better advice on the hand, since the river spot isn't that interesting (and is a trivial shove). _________________ 'Yields a falsehood when appended to its own quotation' yields a falsehood when appended to its own quotation. |
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i fold _________________ "When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it."
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