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boat on the river do you call or shove
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: boat on the river do you call or shove Reply with quote

I had no doubt about this hand based on the  poker stove  vs range idea

but  would you go broke on it ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how can you go broke with 90% equity??
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't tell you're putting him on quads PLEASE.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100%, always in a million years, every day of the week, all night long, dancing on the ceiling, three times a lady shoving it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blsmur pls kill the nit in yourself  Wink you should look at it in that perspective: you are way ahead of his range and more worse hands than better hands will call your shove.

1. better hands that will call your shove: 99 (1combo), 96 (2 combos), 95 (6 combos), 93 (6 combos), 87hh (1combo)-->16 combos.

2. worse hands that will call your shove:
9x trips (72 combos) , flush (maybe 15 combos), straight 42 & 87 (32 combos)-->119 combos.

You could probably exclude some hands like 92o or 42o which he won't call preflop, but its still a lot of estimation and in that spot it wont make any difference.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zipps wrote:
blsmur pls kill the nit in yourself  Wink you should look at it in that perspective: you are way ahead of his range and more worse hands than better hands will call your shove.

1. better hands that will call your shove: 99 (1combo), 96 (2 combos), 95 (6 combos), 93 (6 combos), 87hh (1combo)-->16 combos.

2. worse hands that will call your shove:
9x trips (72 combos) , flush (maybe 15 combos), straight 42 & 87 (32 combos)-->119 combos.

You could probably exclude some hands like 92o or 42o which he won't call preflop, but its still a lot of estimation and in that spot it wont make any difference.


Nice example!  Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do anything but get every chip in the middle, offer to also bet Ian Beales cafe, then you may as well give up on poker.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well guys I hate to disappoint you  . I used to fold bottom fullhouse  when I thought my opponent was to interested  but as we are playing ranges   i was so obviously in front

but in the back of my mind  I am thinking  he has me  

I called or shoved  cant remember exactly  



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my gut when the 2nd 9 came down was he has a 9  and the only reason i pursued it further was it was cheap enough to go another street  so this guy out played me   with the best hand,  and I think i am a moron for even being in the hand by the river .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blsmur wrote:
well guys I hate to disappoint you  . I used to fold bottom fullhouse  when I thought my opponent was to interested  but as we are playing ranges   i was so obviously in front...

and I think i am a moron for even being in the hand by the river .


Firstly 66 isn't the nutworst fullhouse. And secondly, you are probably right in that you shouldn't have been in the hand by the river in the first place (look at how many chips were in the pot before the river).

However, once arrive at the river, there really isn't any other play apart from a shove.

If you posted the whole hand perhaps, then you might get better advice on the hand, since the river spot isn't that interesting (and is a trivial shove).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i fold
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