BR restart 3

chesslw · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:13 am Post subject:

Mate brilliant work (nice shark symbol by your name btw). Though how is the action at the 60s regspeeds lol. I was playing the turbos recently and saw you waiting there for what seems like an eternalty :S
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doodiewiz · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:34 am Post subject:

Cheers mate! I see no shark symbol though. Maybe i won a game and it was there when you checked then i lost a game and it disappeared lol

Action is slow!! Maybe like 10-20 minutes i'm guessing roughly per game. I did start mixing in 4 mans to get more action, but my BR is around $2000 so i cant really loose many buyins so gonna wait till i have like 2500 and play these as well to speed up the action lol. Love reg speeds. Although i've been thinking about turbos. In regs speeds you have so much longer to get more reads etc and make big comebacks for instance if need be:) You playing the 60 turbos? How are they? Not many regs been sitting me yet so same fishy players at the moment!

chesslw · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject:

doodiewiz · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject:

Yeah i have a few regs i sit for fun. I don't even think i've got any real edge on but i sit them anyway usually when i've been on a bit of a streak and decide a decent game is in order. My favourite reg has asked me to stop sitting him lol. I agreed because it was turning into a bit of a hit and run battle. He'd sit me and decline a rematch if he won and vice versa. They were really good matches though...it can be hard to assume you have an edge vs some regs i think, because it's hard to tell if you're being exploited or outplayed sometimes imo. When i'm exploiting them i very often think they have no clue or takes them a long time to figure out why they're loosing. The same definitely happens to me as well and can take time before i've realised how they've adjusted to my strategy for instance. This seems rare though, but could be that sometimes i'm unaware of it...

I think you should plug on with the 60s turbos mate.. Looks like you're crushing and I think you're probably wrong about your hourly. I mean how do guys like Borg/Kierk etc have $20,000 months unless they move up in stakes? (Also there are probably times of the day when action is really good) I also think it's a good idea to sit the 30's, 60's at the same time or sit both the 4man and 2 man 60s at turbos and regs...sure you'll get plenty of action like that...I'll be practicing my turbo skills soon at the 15s, so i can start mixing them in at the 30/60s.... Smile

Yeah i've only played 15 games so far, so hard to tell if they're harder yet...

chesslw · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

Haha oops... Maybe sitting regs wasn't a great idea after all Sad

. Yesterday my stake came through very well (he ran 300$ above EV with 12% EV ROI to boot), so felt like I had spare cash- also wanted some proper games for the hh review as I have never really rematched/sat ppl I thought were better than me. Anyway my br is still the same atm because of the stake (roughly $3k)- so all in all, not too bad (still donking off 500$ doesn't feel great). Also it looks like these guys aren't too happy about me sitting them, so they may be sitting me in future :S (and yeah I've got the same- "hit and run" dynamic going with a few too).

Playing regs is definitely more fun though, but I felt that I was just outplayed against some. The main problem is I'm used to being so exploitable with my lines/betsizing in and oop, and I'm so disbalanced in many areas- fish and bad regs generally never exploited my tendencies before- so I'll need to work on that. I'll need to if I ever want to move up to higher stakes anyway.

For now- I've got to revise for an exam tomorrow Smile

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doodiewiz · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject:

Good luck with the exam!

Yeah i learn't from my last BR build last time at the 30s when i was getting bored waiting for lobbies i just went and played all the regs. I had about 3/4 of them hitting and running me or just sitting me whenever they could and the abuse i got in chat was quite funny. Hurt my BR! Now i just sit and play whoever sits me, but what i usually do is single out just 1 reg who i think is pretty good or better then me and keep hitting and running him or accepting rematches if i win the first one lol(This is when i have a decent BR for that level). That way everyone else plays by the rules and i've only got 1 reg who i battle with and try and beat in the long term. Also i sometimes sit breakeven - 5% ROI guys if i see them sitting and can't be bothered to wait. Yeah it is much more fun, but expensive and i like money. Also I sometimes sit them at the 15 dollar level for fun(you see an occasional 60/100 dollar reg sitting to start his session perhaps). Interesting playing regs, because for instance if you know they know that certain boards are good to cbet and if they start check raising those boards alot you can start checking them back and betting the turn or betting the board when you have top pair etc imo. Thats how i start adjusting anyway. Also my favourite is if i float a flop and i end up at the river with a backdoor flush or two pair for example which i really shouldn't have and i should be weak i'll make a massive overbet and they will call sometimes lol. I was looking in the lobbies last night at the 60s and there are seemingly a lot of very good $100 regs playing those levels too, like Janekaaa or Waldie from husng.com for instance who i'm def staying out of the way of if possible!

Was doing well, but now breakeven so far at the 60s after 3 suckouts, QQ < KK and a terrible shove i made on a river with trips no kicker. TBH i just need to get more games which is a pain in the ass....i'm not getting much reg action though and not going to start any just yet as by sitting first i'm getting some really soft players like at the 30s! Also i love how the FPPs are racking up playing the 60s Smile

$500 dollars shouldn't be too hard to get back though its sucks. Nice one on the staking!

doodiewiz · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:30 am Post subject:

pokerstars has doomswitched me. I'm not allowed to win at the moment:( Oh well, got it in good 5//6 times tonight, 5 suckouts later, 6 buyins down. Pretty standard at the moment. I haven't done myself any favours by playing 4 mans as i think i'm just increasing the variance at the 60s, which i seem to be running even worse in now...honestly if i ran on ev i'd be crushing at the moment...gonna stay tuff though and hope to just get some normal luck soon!!

And Hem. Only 1 man games here and i think they're incomplete on this pc but you get the picture! How do you get 4 mans to work correctly in Hem? Hmmmmm

U Cook Socks · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:

Those kinds of runs are so standard mate, you just need to get used to it. I had a 700 + b/e stretch at the $30s.

The main thing is, even though you are running lol bad, you aren't losing a lot of money. If you tilt, or let it get to you, you can lose a lot of money. Just limit the losses, and then when you get out this shitty run, cream off the good, and you will crush again.

Nice job.
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doodiewiz · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the reassurance mate. Its good to know I'm not the only one as I find it hard to understand the variance involved. Easy to tilt when this happens. Just about avoided it last night. This is by far the worst stretch I've been going through. Hard to understand how brutal the variance can be until it starts happening to you ....I will be taking a look at my game as well(may pay a coach for a leakfinder), put in more volume and hope to upswing soon Smile

Edit: 1 cool thing forgot to mention played cog dissonance twice in 4 man shootouts last night Smile

U Cook Socks · Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately it can get worse than you could ever possibly imagine. I don't think I have suffered that badly with variance overall, although I have had my moments like anyone. I feel the fact I have almost always played over rolled , has helped me deal with it.

Although it is good to know about variance, finding out just how bad some really good players have run, does nothing for you imo, I wish I didn't know !
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