What's your edge ?

U Cook Socks · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: What's your edge ?

I think this is a very important question to ask yourself.

I think it is common knowledge that you basically have to be better than the players you are playing to make money at poker. So what is it that makes you better than the competition ? Or I guess if you are a losing player, why do you feel you can't beat the games.

Looking forward to some interesting answers.
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BetMagicMoney · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:37 am Post subject:

been able to see an edge no matter how small and shipping in the money, im never afraid!
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Borg7 · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:08 am Post subject:

There's a big edge to be had if you understand the concept of ranges. Accurately defining ranges and adjusting your own ranges well is key.
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U Cook Socks · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:25 am Post subject:

Borg7 · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:09 am Post subject:

aggsyb · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: Re: What's your edge ?

StasKo · Grinder Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 126 Location: Israel

in the words of Tommy Angelo: Reciprocality

it basically means that if you and your opponent were to face the exact same situation the long term winner is the one who loses the least and/or winning the most.

since most fish are either paying too much or cant stop their losses i stick to an ABC game with a bit of tightness.
from that basis i adjust to player type with respect to hand ranges (like borg said)
for example betting more streets and bigger with relatively weaker holdings against stations or being more inclined to fold stronger holdings against tighter players.

but basing your game on ABC type of play (meaning no FPS at all) will in itself make you better than your competition (especially at lower stakes)

AxeMage · Grinder Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 169

i think in the smaller stakes... so far, i find that just finding a good read or pattern that the opponent uses for certain types of hands, and exploiting those patterns (adapting), is where i find the edge (small edge right now)... for example, when they pot-sized bet and when they half pot bet, and when they check, and when they re-raise/check-raise, what each of those mean... there's not much variety in their play at this level...

but i agree with borg, and it's not something i used to focus on too much or all the time... but i will definitely try to focus more on ranges as well... i think that's what might be lacking in certain hands when the pots get inflated...

and i've actually thought about it a bit more and i think for me in particular is that i tend to leave out the 'preflop' actions when i put people on hand ranges.. not sure yet, if it's cause i forgot how the hand went preflop or if i just forget to even consider it... but that's something i'm definitely gonna try to focus on more...

nice post/question blazing... very insightful to get into the minds of good players... really got me to analyze my game... thanks! Smile

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doodiewiz · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject:

what Borg said has got me thinking lol. Because i'd say my edge if there is one comes from adjusting to player types and paying attention to frequencies at the small stakes i play at. All the time while im playing i take tonnes of quite in depth notes depending on the player. When you think about it though all you're ever doing is adjusting your ranges. For example, if someones really tight preflop and they're folding preflop more then 50% of the time your're making money(disclaimer:this is what ive always thought and im probably wrong. Also i dont use a hud) and if you factor into that when they call and how often they give up to a cbet you can often play any two cards and by adjusting you're basically feeling your way to these kind of optimal plays....i'm rambling:) I would love to have any of this confirmed....I think players with real edge would know or have investigated a lot of this type of stuff and more of course...

AxeMage · Grinder Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 169

I think this is a sticky worthy post! Something all players should definitely think about when trying to improve their game. Can't wait to hear everyone else's thoughts on this.

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