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mateusz372
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 Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: Bankroll management question. |
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My plan is:
-playing 30-40 hours a week
-so far im on 3,5$ limit
-3 tables at once
-turbo speed on pokerstars (blinds 10/20,15/30,20/40... 3mins, 1500 stacks)
-my bankroll is 500$
I have quite a lot of experience in hu sng. I played more than 5000 tournaments. I was playing on FTP before at 30$, and 50$ reach to 3000$ bankroll from my starting 600$ deposit (+600$ bonus).
My question is: how many buyins do i need, to be sure not to lose more than 25% of my roll on a possible downswing. And what are typical swings for aggressive player in hu turbo? |
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BetMagicMoney
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: |
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stick to a 30BI rule! soo move up when you have 30BI's for the next level and move down when you have 25BI's for that level!
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mateusz372
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you even read my post? That answer is piece of shit. 30 buyins for hu turbo is nothing. You can easly lose like 8 buyins in 2 hours. I dont feel very comfortable grinding my money back at lower stakes. I hoped that some players who play similar stakes at turbo speed would give me some serious advice. |
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BetMagicMoney
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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umm what?
im not trying to be rude but 30BI's is pretty standard for turbos as far as i know. If you really want to be safe just pick 100BI's or whatever makes you feel happy but remember your long term bankroll growth will be much much much slower if you do this!
Also its im possible to know how much you need to avoid losing more then 25% as eventually on the very each of probability you can run infanitly bad but if you want to do some maths go over to this link and play with the kelly calculator http://www.riskoriented.com/the-k...riterion-bankroll-calculator.html
Also in terms of swings you can easily be 600games BE and have a true 8% ROI in turboes, in terms of downswings you can easily hit 15BI downswings and more! if you want to have a look just go over to HUSNG.com and use there variance calculator.
i hope i helped this time :S
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forced
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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at reg speeds at the 30's i went on a $600 downswing and at the $10's i went on a 750 game break even stretch...
at the turbo's im guessing variance is greater.
At that time in the $30's I remember wishing I stuck to the 25-30 buyin rule....
If you dont want to move down in stakes, that's your call/decision. I hated moving down as well... still dislike it... although im playing 6max now.
sigh...
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Jakester1288
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Why not cut the tables and focus on getting to higher stakes. With a $500 bankroll, you should be 1 tabling $15 turbos, not 3 tabling $3.50 turbos. Or 2 tabling $7 turbos, or perhaps 1 $15 and 1 $7, or something similar if you're a solid multi tabler.
As long as you can move up and down the limits, why mess around grinding $3.50s for ~$5 an hour when you have the skill and the roll to 2 table $7's for ~$6.50-$7 an hour, or 2 table a mix of $15s and $7s for ~$10-11 an hour (all assuming 8% roi, constant 2 tabling, except 3 tabling the $3's). |
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| mateusz372 wrote: | | Did you even read my post? That answer is piece of donkey pooh. 30 buyins for hu turbo is nothing. You can easly lose like 8 buyins in 2 hours. I dont feel very comfortable grinding my money back at lower stakes. I hoped that some players who play similar stakes at turbo speed would give me some serious advice. |
YEAH HOW DARE YOU COME IN HERE AND TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO OFFER YOUR ADVICE TO A NEW MEMBER WHO IS ASKING A VERY GENERAL (AND EASY QUESTION).
Now to be serious, and I shall reply in the same manner as OP like to talk to people.
You fucking moron, no one can tell you that you won't lose 25% of your roll in any given downswing because variance has no shape or size. If u want to make sure, then have 1000 buy ins, so with $500 u can play $0.50 HUSNG's.
In future, don't be such a d1ck to others who are only trying to help.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| _red_dog wrote: | Now to be serious, and I shall reply in the same manner as OP like to talk to people.
You Mc Lovin moron, no one can tell you that you won't lose 25% of your roll in any given downswing because variance has no shape or size. If u want to make sure, then have 1000 buy ins, so with $500 u can play $0.50 HUSNG's.
In future, don't be such a d1ck to others who are only trying to help. |
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Thread doomswitch has been activated.
Watch this space........
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| _red_dog wrote: | | mateusz372 wrote: | | Did you even read my post? That answer is piece of donkey pooh. 30 buyins for hu turbo is nothing. You can easly lose like 8 buyins in 2 hours. I dont feel very comfortable grinding my money back at lower stakes. I hoped that some players who play similar stakes at turbo speed would give me some serious advice. |
YEAH HOW DARE YOU COME IN HERE AND TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO OFFER YOUR ADVICE TO A NEW MEMBER WHO IS ASKING A VERY GENERAL (AND EASY QUESTION).
Now to be serious, and I shall reply in the same manner as OP like to talk to people.
You Mc Lovin moron, no one can tell you that you won't lose 25% of your roll in any given downswing because variance has no shape or size. If u want to make sure, then have 1000 buy ins, so with $500 u can play $0.50 HUSNG's.
In future, don't be such a d1ck to others who are only trying to help. |
lmao...
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