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flushdraw + 2 overs on flop=all in against all opponets?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: flushdraw + 2 overs on flop=all in against all opponets? Reply with quote

I was just wondering how you guys think of this,I am playing villans 25min+ on reg speed, and we have both same amount of chips,flop comes FD + overcards for me is it snap shove against anyone if i knew he has top pair? is there any opponet type that you wouldnt go with that kind of line?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume you don't mean overbet shove- but generally fd+2overs is a gii hand (as long as the board is not 3 to a flush).

Bear in mind that e.g. on a flop of:

3h4h5h, you have QhJs- your hand is probably not good enough to gii vs his range.

It's pretty hard to put villain on an exact 5- but if that's what he has then you are not in terrible shape vs As5s, but you are just crushed by soooo many other hands.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes thats true,but boardw like 2h7hJd and similiar and this is villans first strong reraise?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Readless it's just a gii hand tbh.

With some reads you may play it differently...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is check calling top pair, and only check raising sets you may fold.

If his sizing is small you may also flat in position...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im lost  Confused so what exactly do you want to know?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile i wanna know because two overs and fd is around 60% to win from flop to river is it +EV to shove it over villans reraise no matter what oppent we are playing,no really wet boards but ones with FD and one high card where he likely has that high card and he is ready to go with it?

if we know the opponet is LAG would you go with this 60% or you would rather waited fot better spot,if opponet is TAG and raises only top pair hands would you come over the top of him and shove or you would take ususal stab and stealing blinds in later end game line...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get PokerStove.

Do math.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krempi007 wrote:
Smile i wanna know because two overs and fd is around 60% to win from flop to river is it +EV to shove it over villans reraise no matter what oppent we are playing,no really wet boards but ones with FD and one high card where he likely has that high card and he is ready to go with it?

if we know the opponet is LAG would you go with this 60% or you would rather waited fot better spot,if opponet is TAG and raises only top pair hands would you come over the top of him and shove or you would take ususal stab and stealing blinds in later end game line...


I can't ever see me not playing a fd with 2 overs anything but aggressively, not matter who you are playing. It does vary just how you play it dependant on who you are playing and whether you are in position or not.

Your equity is huge on the flop, and any fold equity you have makes your hand better than 60% of course. What ever it is you decide to do, always have a plan in your head for later streets, cos these hands have a habit of going very wrong v passive players, on bad turn cards.
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