What to do vs retards who do this...

chesslw · What to do vs retards who do this...

So this is a common situation. We hold AQ, AJ against a maniac who 3bets preflop like crazy. So we 4bet to induce a shove from him with potsized bet left behind- but he flats...

Then flop comes K94 rainbow and vllain jams/makes committing bet- what is our move? And what about other flop textures?

For me- if I have 2 overcards and have no reads that he would checkfold when missed and donk out only when he hit the board- I would always call/shove.

Obviously 4betting bigger preflop is not good. We don't want our villain to play perfectly against us and fold out a huge part of his range which we beat...

I did some maths calculations- and found that if villain is betting out only when he hits a pair on the flop, we can still call/shove and the whole preflop situation is still +EV for us (since we committed so much of our chips already)- but still this is a tricky spot.

Thoughts?

acceleration

I think you´re right about calling his flop shove probably close to 100% of the time. Not that I´d encounter this situation very often but from logical point of view it´s fine. Say similar preflop scenario as u described happens and flop comes down 735 two tone. He ships in BB. You likely have the best hand here. If he is super retarded he has in his range hands like KJ,KT,QJ,AT etc. I´d never fold my hand there Smile

Not sure about high card flop textures when u miss though.

AxeMage

ack, i hate this spot.. happens waaay too often, i find :\