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Borg7

Subsequences

Be (X,d) a metric space and (x_n)_n€N a sequece in X. Prove: (x_n)_n€N converges when the subsequences (x_2n)_n€N, (x_2n+1)_n€N and (x_3n)_n€N converge.

Any ideas?
aggsyb

Yea stop trying to make yourself look so smart for ego. Your making yourself look gay
Borg7

Lol, I need to hand in the paper soon but idk how to solve this...it's prob pretty simple for some1 who's good at math
Brokerstar

Borg7 wrote:
Lol, I need to hand in the paper soon but idk how to solve this...it's prob pretty simple for some1 who's good at math


'good at math' or math genius?
aggsyb

I think the biggest problem though is that your still coming accross as gay, and its common knowledge that gay people are not liked and in some countries not tolerated. Dont go travelling
Borg7

Brokerstar wrote:

'good at math' or math genius?


Laughing
do you remember the sn of the mathematician guy on here?
chesslw

I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...
BetMagicMoney

feck knows, i like to think i know math but this is just some high level sh1t bro Razz
aggsyb

chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


So hold on a sec, what your saying is it has NOTHING to do with being like and or actually being gay?
U Cook Socks

aggsyb wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


So hold on a sec, what your saying is it has NOTHING to do with being like and or actually being gay?


I'm fairly certain it does to be honest.
chesslw

aggsyb wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


So hold on a sec, what your saying is it has NOTHING to do with being like and or actually being gay?


lol. Where did I say THAT in the reply?

I, in fact, agree with you- that metric/topological spaces are a bit gay. From what I remembered it was all this talk about balls of radius epsilon around each other- and it's not useful in any shape or form for real life except a few bad jokes to share with other "gay" ppl.

Or is this thread a big level?
BetMagicMoney

chesslw wrote:
aggsyb wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


So hold on a sec, what your saying is it has NOTHING to do with being like and or actually being gay?


lol. Where did I say THAT in the reply?

I, in fact, agree with you- that metric/topological spaces are a bit gay. From what I remembered it was all this talk about balls of radius epsilon around each other- and it's not useful in any shape or form for real life except a few bad jokes to share with other "gay" ppl.

Or is this thread a big level?

whats leveling??
Brokerstar

BetMagicMoney wrote:

whats leveling??


Seriously man you've been a member of this site for ages now and you still don't know what a level is?
chesslw

Joking/leveling aside- what I said should be the correct answer...
BetMagicMoney

Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

whats leveling??


Seriously man you've been a member of this site for ages now and you still don't know what a level is?

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink
Borg7

chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


THANK YOU  Cool
U Cook Socks

Borg7 wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


THANK YOU  Cool


Does this mean you are in a relationship now ?
BetMagicMoney

Blazing_Saddler wrote:
Borg7 wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


THANK YOU  Cool


Does this mean you are in a relationship now ?

yes Smile
Brokerstar

BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?
chesslw

Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?


One of you has just got leveled... though I'm not sure who (and I'm not even sure if either you know too).

Or maybe I've got leveled??? Confused
chesslw

Borg7 wrote:
chesslw wrote:
I might be able to answer this, or at least give you a hint. It really depends how much you have "proved" so far.

But if you know that any subsequence of a convergent sequence converges to the same limit (or if not then use for all epsilon there exists N etc etc it isn't too hard), then consider:

X_6n which is a subsequence of X_2n and X_3n, therefore X_2n and X_3n converges to the same limit. Similarly X_6n+3 is a subsequence of X_2n+1 and X_3n, and so X_2n+1 and X_3n have the same limit.

Therefore all 3 sequences have the same limit, x say, so the whole sequence converges to the same limit.

Of course you should use formal notation, i.e. epsilon-N notation.

Hope that helps!

Edit- missed the v. important bolded part the first time...


THANK YOU  Cool


No problem... I thought I heard you did physics???
forced

Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?



Im still trying to figure out how much he owed you...
BetMagicMoney

Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?

but are you sure?
chesslw

forced wrote:
Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?



Im still trying to figure out how much he owed you...


lololol forced  Laughing I didn't even notice that
Borg7

chesslw, the solution you posted was actually almost completely correct (except for the notation obv), ty again.
forced

chesslw wrote:
forced wrote:
Brokerstar wrote:
BetMagicMoney wrote:

bro i just owed you so hard Razz Wink


At leveling? Are you sure?



Im still trying to figure out how much he owed you...


lololol forced  Laughing I didn't even notice that



lol... I thought it was fitting...
chesslw

Borg7 wrote:
chesslw, the solution you posted was actually almost completely correct (except for the notation obv), ty again.


No problem- if you have any pure maths related questions (though no logic theory) then you can ask me.

In all these questions there is always a small trick- e.g. here you need to consider X_6n and X_6n+3, and then of course write down the answer formally (given epsilon, choosing some N s.t. for all n>N, X_n < epsilon blah blah blah). Once you have done a few, you will be able to develop intuition for these tricks just like in poker.
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