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| sandman369 |
Sandman NL Cash buildThought I would start a fresh BRB thread seeing as my other was just 6max. This one is purely for Bet Online, and I am doing FR and 6m.I have deposited a total of $55 (25 at first then 30 more when my Carbon money came in). Some bad beats and a bad play today brought it down to $48.49. I am going to try to make a better effort to put in volume starting Monday - try to make it like a job. I live up on a mountain - 40 minute drive from town  - and so there is basically no internet (we have a 500MB/month plan that goes thru the phone line and the speed is like dial-up). So I use the university's network. 2MB/s down and unlimited bandwidth weeee.
So I will drive in to town in the morning, hit the gym, then to the uni to grind. At my current BR amount I will play 2 tables of NL2 and 2 tables of NL6 (mix of FR and 6m, whatever is available). I will try to restrain myself and only play straight-forward TAG, and only bluff if I have a good read. I have yet to fully break the habit of taking things personally if I miss with a strong hand and get my cbet called. BAD SANDY. BAD. Anyway, I will exchange one NL2 table for an NL6 for every $6 my BR grows, so at $56 it will be 1 table of NL2 and 3 of NL6, and at $62 I will be 4-tabling NL6. After that I will exchange in 1 table of NL10 when I reach $90, and keep exchanging 1 for every $10 I gain from there. This will be updated weekly. Someone made a good point that daily updates make you focus on the results too much. Week of Nov. 14: [] Stick to schedule all week: Get up by 7 AM, leave by 8 AM, hit gym, play poker til 4 PM. [] Stick to BR plan I have always given up on goals too soon in the past, but this time I want to make it stick. Any occasional chatting and poker talk on Skype would be greatly appreciated to keep my head in a poker mindset. I don't have anyone IRL to talk poker with 
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| Myself086 |
I'm adding you on skype.
I play many formats, everything hold'em and omaha hi/lo PL, NL. Feel free to talk with me almost anytime everyday. Good luck at the tables. |
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| sandman369 |
Well seeing all the horrible things about Bet Online recently, I'm going to abandon that site and start on my province's new poker site (BC, Canada) at playnow.com
If anyone will keep playing at Bet Online, let me know if you're willing to trade for pokerstars $ I'll start with $50 again at NL4 (they only have NL4, NL10, NL30 for micros, but goes normal from NL50 and up). My goals for now are to just get out of the house and into town to play at least some poker every day. I've been spiraling into a rut again, being lazy and depressed. |
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| BetMagicMoney |
GLGL on there and yer im interested so PM and i'll think about it 
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| sandman369 |
PM sent.
The site is OK, I'd give it a 6.5/10 Pros: - Soft players abound! At least at NL4. Not quite on the level of Bet Online, but still a lot of bad players. - Bankroll safety. It's the government's lottery corporation, so they're not going to screw people over any worse than government normally does on a day-to-day basis 
- Ease of deposit/withdrawal. Instant CC deposit, and direct deposit to bank account withdrawal. No hassles (haven't tested a withdraw yet, but I have faith) - Good action buttons like bet buttons (min, 1/2-pot, 3/4-pot, pot, max). I didn't know how to type in a bet til I asked someone on live support haha. The text field is within the bet/raise button Cons: - Not many perks seeing as it's a government casino basically. No deposit bonuses or rakeback affiliates. The "PXP" or Poker Experience Points are exchangeable for cash, but they only work out to a rate of 4% rakeback. Pretty crap, but better than nothing I suppose. - Rake at NL4 is 10%  (everything higher is 5% though). dunno if that's all standard or if everything is usually 5%
- I can't see anywhere to save hand histories to your PC, and so no tracking software would work. They do have hand histories available in the menu at the tables though. - SLOW rate of play. 10-player tables are ~35 hands/hour, 6max are ~70 hands/hour. Almost as bad as live poker. - When tiling 4 tables, things don't resize on the table, everything just gets TINY. My poor 15" laptop
- Other things I noticed but can't remember right now lol An hour and a half of play and no major runbad or rungood and I profited $4.72 (118bb). Like I said, soft games. Just wish I could use a HUD but oh well. |
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| forced |
where are you in BC?... Im in surrey! | ||||
| sandman369 |
Kamloops. I live on a mountain, bitches! 
Just over 1km elevation, and it takes about half an hour to drive down to river level
WRT the poker site, apparently HEM does work with it. I will have to investigate how to save hand histories and get it working! edit: woot got HEM to read the hand histories. |
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| sandman369 |
Ok so I'm back playing on BO since it now looks like they do payout eventually. Plus the playnow software is no better than BO, the games are nowhere near as soft, and there are no bonuses or incentives to speak of (4% rakeback is about it, but the rake at micros is too high). So my BR on BO was ~$68, now it is ~$84 after 4-tabling a mix of NL6 and NL10 for a couple hours. Was floating around $90-94 for a while but I finally got KK all-in with an A7 noob and, well, they're not called ace magnets for nothing 
There only ever seems to be one FR and one 6m table at each of those stakes going on, so those are the 4 tables I'll be playing until my BR is around $150, then I will change out one NL6 for a NL25. |
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| forced |
so you would suggest not to play at playnow.com? | ||||
| sandman369 |
Not the micros at least - rake is too high with only 4% rakeback and it's not quite soft enough to justify that. I haven't even reached 1000 hands of NL4 on there and I already have 8 PXP which means I've paid $2 in rake (you get 1 PXP from 25c of rake paid). I've only gained about $3 from my initial deposit. It's just not a good site for grinding, they made it mainly for the everyday gambler and lottery player. I would go back and play on it if they introduced a deposit bonus and better points/rakeback incentives, but for now there's basically none. |
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| sandman369 |
omfg ran like shit shit shit shit shit shit shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit today. BR is back down to $68.52. KK<QQ AIPF was the least of my runbad holy fuk... the little that I hit barely got paid off, it's like the fish learned to swim today or something. all within an hour. No more playing today, too steamed. | ||||
| sandman369 |
ohhhh baby the rungood resumes! 
BetOnline Poker Game #940835490: Hold'em No Limit ($0.03/0.06) - 2011/11/29 21:22 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Pitch Black' 10-Max, Seat #4 is the button Seat 8: mugs1964 (5.07 in chips) Seat 5: thewaster (3.98 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 2: sandman369 (10.13 in chips) Seat 1: Fluffy@TX (0.00 in chips) Seat 3: GG911 (4.21 in chips) Seat 9: ALAdonk (4.53 in chips) Seat 0: qfboss2003 (2.20 in chips) Seat 7: farhajr70 (3.11 in chips) Seat 4: Gman Guru (2.90 in chips) - The button Seat 6: LuocMay (1.29 in chips) - Big Blind thewaster: posts small blind 0.03 LuocMay: posts big blind 0.06 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Kc Ah] farhajr70: folds mugs1964: calls 0.06 ALAdonk: folds qfboss2003: folds Fluffy@TX: calls 0.06 sandman369: raises 0.42 to 0.42 GG911: folds Gman Guru: folds thewaster: calls 0.39 LuocMay: folds mugs1964: calls 0.36 Fluffy@TX: calls 0.36 *** FLOP *** [10h Ks 7s] thewaster: bets 0.12 mugs1964: calls 0.12 aladonk said "lol mugs" Fluffy@TX: calls 0.12 sandman369: raises 9.71 to 9.71 and is all in thewaster: folds mugs1964: folds Fluffy@TX: calls 5.46 Uncalled bet (4.13) returned to sandman369 *** SHOW DOWN *** sandman369 shows Kc Ah Fluffy@TX shows 10c 9c *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 12.64 | Rake 0.50 Board [10h Ks 7s 9s 8d] Seat 8: mugs1964 folded on the Flop Seat 5: thewaster folded on the Flop Seat 2: sandman369 showed [Kc Ah] but did not win Seat 1: Fluffy@TX showed [10c 9c] and won (12.64) Seat 3: GG911 folded before Flop Seat 9: ALAdonk folded before Flop Seat 0: qfboss2003 folded before Flop Seat 7: farhajr70 folded before Flop Seat 4: Gman Guru folded before Flop Seat 6: LuocMay folded before Flop lol well wtf, only +$1.73 today, BR is at $70.14. And that includes being up almost a buy-in (NL6) at 2 different tables. If I could see my $EV stats I'd probably lmao |
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| Brokerstar |
Guys are stacking off with middle pair in multi way pots ha ha, long may it last I say 
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| sandman369 |
True dat, I just hope I actually get to profit from this sooner than later. I also love how it's standard to get 3 OOP callers to my 7xBB raise. | ||||
| sandman369 |
Not a bad day, +$13.45 for a BR of $83.59. That is including 2 dumb calls that cost me about $13. I still don't fold my 2nd/3rd best hands enough, nor do I analyze their hand enough, even when I get a horrible feeling about it. Something to work on. Traffic was slow, only a couple NL6 tables so I also loaded up 3 NL2 FR tables. When I get to ~$100 I will start mixing NL6 and NL10 | ||||
| sandman369 |
Well this is how my session is going so far...
BetOnline Poker Game #941927095: Hold'em No Limit ($0.03/0.06) - 2011/12/02 20:17 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Armageddon' 10-Max, Seat #9 is the button Seat 7: bigsteely (4.92 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 5: sandman369 (5.10 in chips) Seat 6: The8sss (14.61 in chips) Seat 4: tiller69 (1.71 in chips) Seat 0: Dakota219 (6.23 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 8: macdre33 (1.91 in chips) Seat 1: victor187 (1.00 in chips) - Big Blind Dakota219: posts small blind 0.03 victor187: posts big blind 0.06 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Ks Kd] gohartley joins the table at seat #2 tiller69: folds matwey joins the table at seat #3 sandman369: raises 0.21 to 0.21 The8sss: folds macdre33: raises 0.36 to 0.36 Dakota219: calls 0.33 victor187: calls 0.30 sandman369: raises 4.89 to 5.10 and is all in macdre33: calls 1.55 Sir Joe joins the table at seat #9 Dakota219: calls 4.74 victor187: calls 0.64 Total pot 6.21 | Rake 0.50 Total pot 6.21 | Rake 0.50 Total pot 2.60 | Rake 0.50 Total pot 2.60 | Rake 0.50 *** SHOW DOWN *** macdre33 shows Js Jh sandman369 shows Ks Kd victor187 shows 9d 9s Dakota219 shows 6d 4d *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3.80 | Rake 0.50 Board [4c Ad 5c 6h Qh] Seat 5: sandman369 showed [Ks Kd] but did not win Seat 6: The8sss folded before Flop Seat 4: tiller69 folded before Flop Seat 0: Dakota219 showed [6d 4d] and won (3.80) Seat 8: macdre33 showed [Js Jh] but did not win Seat 1: victor187 showed [9d 9s] but did not win BetOnline Poker Game #941931026: Hold'em No Limit ($0.03/0.06) - 2011/12/02 20:29 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Armageddon' 10-Max, Seat #9 is the button Seat 7: bigsteely (7.17 in chips) Seat 5: sandman369 (6.00 in chips) Seat 6: The8sss (14.51 in chips) Seat 4: tiller69 (1.50 in chips) Seat 1: victor187 (0.93 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 2: gohartley (6.96 in chips) Seat 3: matwey (1.37 in chips) Seat 8: INDICABUZZ (6.96 in chips) Seat 9: SCOTTSBACK (4.15 in chips) - The button Seat 0: jrritenow (2.13 in chips) - Small Blind jrritenow: posts small blind 0.03 victor187: posts big blind 0.06 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [10d 10c] gohartley: folds matwey: folds tiller69: calls 0.06 sandman369: raises 0.30 to 0.30 The8sss: folds bigsteely: folds INDICABUZZ: folds SCOTTSBACK: folds jrritenow: folds victor187: raises 0.87 to 0.93 and is all in tiller69: calls 0.87 sandman369: raises 1.89 to 2.19 tiller69: calls 0.57 Uncalled bet (0.69) returned to sandman369 Total pot 1.09 | Rake 0.19 Total pot 1.09 | Rake 0.19 *** SHOW DOWN *** sandman369 shows 10d 10c tiller69 shows Ah 10h victor187 shows 8c 8s *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2.68 | Rake 0.19 Board [Kc 5d 9s Jc 8h] Seat 7: bigsteely folded before Flop Seat 5: sandman369 showed [10d 10c] and won (1.09) Seat 6: The8sss folded before Flop Seat 4: tiller69 showed [Ah 10h] but did not win Seat 1: victor187 showed [8c 8s] and won (2.6 
Seat 2: gohartley folded before Flop Seat 3: matwey folded before Flop Seat 8: INDICABUZZ folded before Flop Seat 9: SCOTTSBACK folded before Flop Seat 0: jrritenow folded before Flop Among lots of other shit, like getting rivered a ton, getting outflopped a ton. Why must this keep happening when I'm trying to build a roll 
This much rake with no rakeback and every other day running like this, how can I ever build a good roll 
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| sandman369 |
Despite all that garbage I managed +$6.2 for a BR of $89.79 over a 2 hour session. NL6 traffic is crap so I'm having to play the one or two available NL6 tables and 3 or 4 of NL2. But just about $10 more and I'll start mixing NL2 NL6 and one table of NL10. Dunno if I'll play another sesh tonight, didn't get a good sleep last night. Starting to feel slightly more optimistic about actually building a decent roll in the next couple weeks. Just hope I at least don't run terrible. Running 0EV is all I ask
edit: Played another hour, up almost another buck. Current BR: $90.72 |
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| sandman369 |
Just had a pretty good 90 minute sesh, ran fairly nice. I played 1 NL10, 1 NL6, and 4 NL2. All FR. I find it much easier to multitable when there's no 6max in there; it makes me go too quick and not think enough if there is. I guess I feel like there is more importance on my image and getting reads on opponents on the 6max table, and it ends up messing me up. So for now I will stick to multitabling FR games.
Current BR: $102.45 |
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| sandman369 |
Two 90 minute sessions tonight, and somehow I managed to eke out a tiny profit, despite playing and running like crap at the only 6max NL10 table I decided to try in the 2nd session. Made a stupid bluff attempt against an unknown that cost me almost $4, then ran like shit the rest of the time on that table.
Here's the stupid bluff: BetOnline Poker Game #943156451: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:12 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #4 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (3.53 in chips) Seat 8: Ankah3 (15.84 in chips) Seat 7: rallystx77 (1.39 in chips) Seat 5: D1abolic (5.29 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 4: vts111 (3.67 in chips) - The button Seat 6: sandman369 (10.59 in chips) - Big Blind D1abolic: posts small blind 0.05 sandman369: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Qh 6s] rallystx77: folds Ankah3: folds AriaXpress: folds vts111: folds D1abolic: raises 0.15 to 0.20 sandman369: calls 0.10 *** FLOP *** [10c As 4d] D1abolic: bets 0.10 sandman369: raises 0.30 to 0.30 D1abolic: calls 0.20 *** TURN *** [10c As 4d][5d] D1abolic: checks sandman369: bets 0.70 D1abolic: calls 0.70 *** RIVER *** [10c As 4d 5d][Ah] D1abolic: checks sandman369: bets 3.00 D1abolic: calls 3.00 *** SHOW DOWN *** sandman369 shows Qh 6s D1abolic shows Ks Kh *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7.98 | Rake 0.42 Board [10c As 4d 5d Ah] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 8: Ankah3 folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 folded before Flop Seat 5: D1abolic showed [Ks Kh] and won (7.9
Seat 4: vts111 folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Qh 6s] but did not win And here's the highlights of how great the rest of this table went: BetOnline Poker Game #943159785: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:22 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #7 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (4.78 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.59 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 7: rallystx77 (6.32 in chips) - The button Seat 5: D1abolic (6.92 in chips) Seat 4: vts111 (4.53 in chips) Seat 6: sandman369 (9.33 in chips) Ankah3: posts small blind 0.05 AriaXpress: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Qc Jh] vts111: folds D1abolic: calls 0.10 sandman369: raises 0.40 to 0.40 rallystx77: folds Ankah3: folds AriaXpress: calls 0.30 D1abolic: folds *** FLOP *** [7s 2c 9c] AriaXpress: checks sandman369: checks *** TURN *** [7s 2c 9c][10c] AriaXpress: bets 0.30 sandman369: calls 0.30 *** RIVER *** [7s 2c 9c 10c][9h] AriaXpress: bets 0.50 sandman369: folds Uncalled bet (0.50) returned to AriaXpress *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1.48 | Rake 0.07 Board [7s 2c 9c 10c 9h] Total pot 1.48 | Rake 0.07 Board [7s 2c 9c 10c 9h] Seat 9: AriaXpress collected (1.4
Seat 8: Ankah3 folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 folded before Flop Seat 5: D1abolic folded before Flop Seat 4: vts111 folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 folded on the River BetOnline Poker Game #943163032: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:31 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #4 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (5.76 in chips) Seat 8: Ankah3 (13.84 in chips) Seat 7: rallystx77 (7.80 in chips) Seat 5: D1abolic (6.71 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 4: vts111 (3.48 in chips) - The button Seat 6: sandman369 (9.48 in chips) - Big Blind D1abolic: posts small blind 0.05 sandman369: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [10c Jd] rallystx77: calls 0.10 Ankah3: folds AriaXpress: folds vts111: folds D1abolic: calls 0.05 sandman369: checks *** FLOP *** [7h Jc 7c] D1abolic: checks sandman369: checks rallystx77: checks *** TURN *** [7h Jc 7c][6s] D1abolic: folds sandman369: bets 0.16 rallystx77: calls 0.16 *** RIVER *** [7h Jc 7c 6s][8d] sandman369: checks rallystx77: bets 0.59 sandman369: calls 0.59 *** SHOW DOWN *** rallystx77 shows 9c 7s sandman369 shows 10c Jd *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1.71 | Rake 0.09 Board [7h Jc 7c 6s 8d] rallystx77 shows 9c 7s sandman369 shows 10c Jd Total pot 1.71 | Rake 0.09 Board [7h Jc 7c 6s 8d] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 8: Ankah3 folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 showed [9c 7s] and won (1.71) Seat 5: D1abolic folded on the Turn Seat 4: vts111 folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [10c Jd] but did not win BetOnline Poker Game #943163698: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:33 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #6 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (5.76 in chips) Seat 8: Ankah3 (13.74 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 7: rallystx77 (8.56 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 5: D1abolic (6.85 in chips) Seat 4: vts111 (3.48 in chips) Seat 6: sandman369 (8.58 in chips) - The button rallystx77: posts small blind 0.05 Ankah3: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [10h 9s] AriaXpress: calls 0.10 vts111: folds D1abolic: folds sandman369: raises 0.40 to 0.40 rallystx77: calls 0.35 Ankah3: folds AriaXpress: calls 0.30 *** FLOP *** [8h 2c 6c] rallystx77: checks AriaXpress: checks sandman369: checks *** TURN *** [8h 2c 6c][7h] rallystx77: bets 0.10 AriaXpress: calls 0.10 sandman369: raises 1.00 to 1.00 rallystx77: calls 0.90 AriaXpress: folds *** RIVER *** [8h 2c 6c 7h][10c] rallystx77: bets 2.42 sandman369: calls 2.42 *** SHOW DOWN *** rallystx77 shows 9c Ah sandman369 shows 10h 9s *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7.83 | Rake 0.41 Board [8h 2c 6c 7h 10c] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded on the Turn Seat 8: Ankah3 folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 showed [9c Ah] and won (3.92) Seat 5: D1abolic folded before Flop Seat 4: vts111 folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [10h 9s] and won (3.91) BetOnline Poker Game #943166730: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:43 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #9 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (5.44 in chips) - The button Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.52 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 7: rallystx77 (8.16 in chips) Seat 5: D1abolic (6.02 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 4: vts111 (3.32 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 6: sandman369 (9.90 in chips) vts111: posts small blind 0.05 D1abolic: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Jd Jc] sandman369: raises 0.35 to 0.35 rallystx77: folds AriaXpress: folds vts111: folds D1abolic: folds Uncalled bet (0.25) returned to sandman369 sandman369 shows Jd Jc *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] sandman369 shows Jd Jc Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 folded before Flop Seat 5: D1abolic folded before Flop Seat 4: vts111 folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Jd Jc] and won (0.25) BetOnline Poker Game #943167614: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:45 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #7 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (4.34 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.52 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 7: rallystx77 (7.91 in chips) - The button Seat 5: D1abolic (6.83 in chips) Seat 4: vts111 (3.17 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 6: sandman369 (10.46 in chips) AriaXpress: posts small blind 0.05 vts111: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Kd Ks] D1abolic: folds sandman369: raises 0.35 to 0.35 vts111 has left the table rallystx77: folds AriaXpress: folds Uncalled bet (0.25) returned to sandman369 sandman369 shows Kd Ks *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] sandman369 shows Kd Ks Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 folded before Flop Seat 5: D1abolic folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Kd Ks] and won (0.25) ANOTHER fucking TIME-OUT ALL-IN CHEATER BetOnline Poker Game #943168122: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:47 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #4 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (4.19 in chips) Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.52 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 7: rallystx77 (7.71 in chips) Seat 5: D1abolic (7.11 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 6: sandman369 (10.61 in chips) - Big Blind D1abolic: posts small blind 0.05 sandman369: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Jd Qd] rallystx77: calls 0.10 AriaXpress: folds D1abolic: calls 0.05 sandman369: checks *** FLOP *** [Ac Js 4d] D1abolic: checks sandman369: checks *** TURN *** [Ac Js 4d][5h] D1abolic: checks sandman369: bets 0.20 D1abolic: calls 0.20 *** RIVER *** [Ac Js 4d 5h][6d] D1abolic: checks sandman369: checks Total pot 0.38 | Rake 0.03 Total pot 0.38 | Rake 0.03 *** SHOW DOWN *** rallystx77 shows 3c 7c sandman369 shows Jd Qd D1abolic shows 5s 2d *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 0.29 | Rake 0.03 Board [Ac Js 4d 5h 6d] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 showed [3c 7c] and won (0.29) Seat 5: D1abolic showed [5s 2d] but did not win Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Jd Qd] and won (0.3
He got to call preflop, time out on the flop, and end up winning. Awesome. I've run into several people doing this now. BetOnline Poker Game #943168507: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:48 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #5 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (4.19 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.52 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 7: rallystx77 (7.90 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 5: D1abolic (6.81 in chips) - The button Seat 6: sandman369 (10.69 in chips) - Small Blind sandman369: posts small blind 0.05 AriaXpress: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Qs Kd] D1abolic: raises 0.20 to 0.20 sandman369: calls 0.15 AriaXpress: folds *** FLOP *** [2d 8s Kc] sandman369: checks D1abolic: checks *** TURN *** [2d 8s Kc][5s] sandman369: bets 0.24 D1abolic: calls 0.24 *** RIVER *** [2d 8s Kc 5s][Jc] sandman369: bets 1.00 D1abolic: calls 1.00 *** SHOW DOWN *** sandman369 shows Qs Kd D1abolic shows 5c Jd *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2.84 | Rake 0.14 Board [2d 8s Kc 5s Jc] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 5: D1abolic showed [5c Jd] and won (2.84) Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Qs Kd] but did not win BetOnline Poker Game #943168792: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/05 23:49 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Marlon Brando' 6-Max, Seat #6 is the button Seat 9: AriaXpress (4.09 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 8: Ankah3 (14.52 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 7: rallystx77 (7.90 in chips) Seat 5: D1abolic (8.21 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 6: sandman369 (9.25 in chips) - The button AriaXpress: posts small blind 0.05 D1abolic: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Ks Ac] sandman369: raises 0.35 to 0.35 AriaXpress: folds D1abolic: folds Uncalled bet (0.25) returned to sandman369 sandman369 shows Ks Ac *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] sandman369 shows Ks Ac Total pot 0.25 | Rake 0.00 Board [] Seat 9: AriaXpress folded before Flop Seat 7: rallystx77 collected (0.00) Seat 5: D1abolic folded before Flop Seat 6: sandman369 showed [Ks Ac] and won (0.25) That was almost every hand I played, the rest was garbage and only 1 or 2 PFR-cbet takedowns. Ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Sorry for posting the HH of it but just had to type it out or it would bug me for a while. I feel better already
P.S. I think I am steadily getting worse at poker. I mean, I'm barely up $50 after a couple weeks on this site, yet Broker made this much by what, day 2? I need help I watch videos and know the basics by heart, but it just seems like I only win if I happen to hit big, which doesn't happen often. Otherwise I get played back at and no bluffs ever work. And at 6max I just seem to do terrible against obviously bad players.
Current BR: $104.62 |
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| sandman369 |
Ran better today but I still managed to waste almost $5 on another stupid play against an unknown from my SB to his BB. I allowed my brain to level me once again. Bad brain. Stop it.
Traffic was slow. Started out with 1 NL6 6max, 1 NL6 FR and 1 NL10 FR, but the 6max wasn't a very juicy game, nobody paying off very well, so I just played the two FR tables for a good 2.5 hours. Current BR: $121.42 |
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| sandman369 |
What a meh day. Decent 90 minute session, took a short break only to come back to the BO client not working. Was broken for an hour or so, then it was back. Just finished another ~45 minute session and played not so well, probably because I tried a 6max again and forgot to be patient.
Current BR: $122.49 Honestly Broker, how the hell did you manage big profits every day at these stakes? Am I really that bad? I can't seem to beat the 6max games, I just don't get big hands that often and there's no bluffing the fish, and it seems like any decent hand I play and hit, they hit bigger. Argh, just frustrated. |
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| emoninja |
Hey man looks like we're doing a similar challenge atm. From looking at your thread you don't really mention much about what type of players your up against hen discussing a hand. That's how broker built his role fast, he takes a lot of notes about what the others are like. In my experience tells on bet sizing and also timing can really help.
I found on BO a small raise nearly always means that they have something really weak like 3rd pair and betting because they don't want to call a bet from you or are trying to steal but are afraid to risk a big bet. So if you then have a read on how these guys react to raises you can bluff them off their hand with a big raise or take them to value town with second pair or top pair weak kicker if you know they can't fold in this position. Also a lot of guys love slow playing monsters, figure out who they are, if they start making pot sized bets you know they can't have much. Also use timing ie if they are slow playing a monster they usually will take more time to decide what to do whereas an insta call is usually middle pair or so. Anyway moral of the story note taking is key! Hope that helps. Keep confidence, I found NL 25 and 50 to be easier than 6 and 10 |
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| sandman369 |
I do have tons of notes, but I end up having 5 lines of conflicting notes on a lot of them, probably because most of them are just gamblers who have no defined way of playing. And 6max is annoying, it's always a lot of limps and minraises, and when I chime in with standard bigger raises, they all jump in and I miss most of the time. Cbets rarely work too. So I stick to FR and that goes slowly. Ah well I'll keep chugging on. | ||||
| sandman369 |
Ugh what a shit session. Missed 99% of flops, took maybe 2 cbets down at most, and 90% of draw chasers hit. Whole lot of shit.
Current BR: $110.99 |
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| sandman369 |
Started off today playing very bad, dunno why. I call way too much. Was playing just NL6 for a bit. Then I tightened up and opened up a couple NL10 FR after I calmed down. Not a great run of cards, most of the hands I raised PF got the absolute worst flops, but managed one big score on an NL10 table to put me in the + for today. In the future I will keep trying hard to just play for value, it's just not worth it to try and pull off bluffs or call-downs without a lot of reads. And I'm learning that on Bet Online, people will call pot-size or bigger more often than I thought.
Current BR: $118.63 |
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| BetMagicMoney |
how many tables you playing? | ||||
| sandman369 |
2-4 depending on traffic | ||||
| sandman369 |
Up and down day, but I'm finally happy with how I played. Started off hitting stuff then decks went icy cold.
Current BR: 127.82 |
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| sandman369 |
Overall a good day! Played only NL6 FR, for a good 4.5 hours today. A few big scores and a lot of getting sucked out on (lost a $17 pot w/ two pair against two flush chasers ), but that just means I'm getting it in good a huge majority of the time. I'm happy with the way I played again but can still improve, so I will continue to try doing so. I have oodles of notes on lots of people. If only the software wasn't shit!
Current BR: $149.69 (up almost 4 buy-ins after a roller coaster day woohoo) |
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| sandman369 |
I can play at home now! Still gonna go into town in the evenings though for sanity sake.
edit: ugh, in town to play but the site is lagging so bad it times me out before my action is accepted. Learn2getatimebank, morons! Hopefully it will get better soon. I did play about an hour n a half at home today though. Current BR: $157.48 edit: SIGHHHH I decided to try NL10 now that I have 15 BI, and the gods decide to turn the switch instantly. shortstackers catching their draws on the turn and i get two pair, running QQ into KK and KK into AA, running top pair + nut flush draw into set and not hitting. Ah well, try again tomorrow. I think I'll just have one NL10 table going and the rest NL6. Very tired now, didn't get much sleep :/ Current BR: $151.32 |
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| sandman369 |
This screenshot was a couple days ago and it's what I look forward to every time I log on to BO
Sitting with a combined 777.33 bb at two tables 
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| sandman369 |
Damn myself, damnit!! Threw away another big chunk of my BR due to not stopping and thinking of my options.
BetOnline Poker Game #947168424: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/0.10) - 2011/12/16 17:01 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Uma Thurman' 10-Max, Seat #8 is the button Seat 5: IplayNUTS (14.55 in chips) Seat 3: GoShujaa (5.98 in chips) Seat 1: sandman369 (16.18 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 6: ColorGreen (6.98 in chips) Seat 8: laurtudor (6.48 in chips) - The button Seat 7: jaaazzz (21.73 in chips) Seat 2: WVSellers3 (13.84 in chips) Seat 4: d'spops (8.45 in chips) Seat 0: mcliff31 (9.70 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 9: pazzerup (3.00 in chips) mcliff31: posts small blind 0.05 sandman369: posts big blind 0.10 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [7s 8s] WVSellers3: folds GoShujaa: calls 0.10 d'spops: folds IplayNUTS: folds ColorGreen: folds jaaazzz: raises 0.20 to 0.20 laurtudor: folds mcliff31: folds sandman369: calls 0.10 GoShujaa: calls 0.10 *** FLOP *** [6s As 7c] sandman369: checks GoShujaa: checks jaaazzz: bets 0.20 sandman369: raises 1.00 to 1.00 GoShujaa: folds jaaazzz: calls 0.80 *** TURN *** [6s As 7c][10s] sandman369: bets 1.46 jaaazzz: raises 4.92 to 4.92 sandman369: raises 13.52 to 14.98 and is all in jaaazzz: calls 10.06 *** SHOW DOWN *** jaaazzz shows 5s Ks sandman369 shows 7s 8s *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 30.98 | Rake 1.63 Board [6s As 7c 10s 4d] Seat 5: IplayNUTS folded before Flop Seat 3: GoShujaa folded on the Flop Seat 1: sandman369 showed [7s 8s] but did not win Seat 6: ColorGreen folded before Flop Seat 8: laurtudor folded before Flop Seat 7: jaaazzz showed [5s Ks] and won (30.9
Seat 2: WVSellers3 folded before Flop Seat 4: d'spops folded before Flop Seat 0: mcliff31 folded before Flop Seat 9: pazzerup collected (0.00) My notes on the guy are how his PF raises indicate hand strength usually, overplays top pair, calls off a lot with bottom pair or draws, and is quite loose/wide range. I hope in the future I can stop myself from doing stupid shit like this. Perhaps I should make a text file of a list of what steps to think of when it's my turn to act and have it open when I play. Well that was at home, I didn't feel like playing after that and haven't played while in town today, just feeling too upset at myself, not worth it. Anyway, still had a small profit overall today despite that stupidity. Current BR: $156.70 Oh and I just now realized I had one out to hit the str8flush haha. |
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| sandman369 |
a good example of what the cards and boards were doing to me today:
BetOnline Poker Game #947739300: Hold'em No Limit ($0.03/0.06) - 2011/12/18 02:30 Pacific Standard Time Table 'Armageddon' 10-Max, Seat #6 is the button Seat 5: rickiej805 (1.51 in chips) Seat 1: IOutDrawU (8.26 in chips) Seat 3: sandman369 (13.42 in chips) Seat 9: sfrbrns (8.09 in chips) - Big Blind Seat 7: JakeJarmel (7.05 in chips) - Small Blind Seat 2: vince2000 (5.48 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 8: PEPPE71 (0.00 in chips) - Sitting out Seat 0: indy_colts (4.96 in chips) Seat 6: The Ruby (4.38 in chips) - The button Seat 4: AK all in (1.42 in chips) JakeJarmel: posts small blind 0.03 sfrbrns: posts big blind 0.06 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sandman369 [Ac Jc] PEPPE71 has left the table indy_colts: folds IOutDrawU: folds sandman369: raises 0.24 to 0.24 AK all in: calls 0.24 rickiej805: calls 0.24 The Ruby: folds JakeJarmel: folds sfrbrns: folds *** FLOP *** [Kc 7s 8c] sandman369: bets 0.46 AK all in: raises 0.92 to 0.92 vince2000 has left the table rickiej805: folds sandman369: raises 0.92 to 1.38 AK all in: calls 0.26 Uncalled bet (0.20) returned to sandman369 *** SHOW DOWN *** AK all in shows 8s Ks sandman369 shows Ac Jc *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3.02 | Rake 0.15 Board [Kc 7s 8c 5d Jh] Seat 5: rickiej805 folded on the Flop Seat 1: IOutDrawU folded before Flop Seat 3: sandman369 showed [Ac Jc] but did not win Seat 9: sfrbrns folded before Flop Seat 7: JakeJarmel folded before Flop Seat 0: indy_colts folded before Flop Seat 6: The Ruby folded before Flop Seat 4: AK all in showed [8s Ks] and won (3.02) Ah well, just another bunch of boring ol runbad except for the guy that stacked off on the river w/ QJ on 4Q972 to my 99 Current BR: $156.12 |
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| sandman369 |
Started off playing bad, scolded myself, then things turned around.
Current BR: $169.30 Not sure whether NL10 is worth it on this site. The average pots are always smaller than NL6, and sometimes less players/flop. I think NL6 just pays off way better and risks a smaller buy-in, so I'm just not going to play NL10 unless the avg pot is big enough to justify it. Current BR: $184.09 |
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| sandman369 |
I'm visiting my dad down in Vancouver for a week, didn't play for a couple days! 
Took a NL25 shot last night and didn't run into any beats woohoo! Current BR: $237 |
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| sandman369 |
OH MY fucking GOD FUCKSHITFUCKINGWHATTHEGODDAMNFUCK
A guy playing LITERALLY 100% VPIP NO MATTER WHAT. Overbets 75% of the time. And THIS is the time I get a run of cards drier than an egyptian mummy's cunt? And get outdrawn on the few fucking good hands I do get? And when I hit anything he instafolds? He is UTG in this hand. Sitting with over 4 buyins at all times and spewing and somehow winning 95% of every goddamn thing. AND THEN fucking THIS? FOR SOME FUCKED UP REASON I FOLD THIS PREFLOP!? BetOnline No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com saw flop | saw showdown MP3 ($52.07) MP2 ($23.58 ) MP1 ($61.77) UTG ($147.28 ) SB ($11.75) Hero (Button) ($47.83) CO ($6.98 ) UTG+1 ($20.78 ) BB ($25) Preflop: Hero is Button with K  , J
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 bets $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1.25, 4 folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $0.75 Flop: ($5.10) Q , 10, J (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2, UTG+1 calls $2, MP2 raises to $5.25, BB raises to $12.52, UTG calls $10.52, UTG+1 raises to $19.53 (All-In), 1 fold, BB raises to $23.75 (All-In), UTG calls $11.23 Total pot: $77.38 | Rake: $3 Board [Qd 10d Jc 3d 8c] (hand converter doesn't read this) Results: BB had A  , K (straight, Ace high).
UTG didn't show UTG+1 had K , A (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $32.97, UTG+1 won $32.97 I really just want to go jump off a skyscraper. No more poker for me for a while. Current BR: $150 |
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| sandman369 |
sighhhhhhhhhhh
current BR: $132 |
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| sandman369 |
Welp, somehow managed to spew away all but ~$15 of my roll. Guess if I can't even be patient enough to beat Bet Online, I'm just not made for poker. And it was really the only thing I had to cling to in life anymore. Hope you all manage to find some joy in yours, I know I didn't really. | ||||
| forced |
Dude... I could'nt win a fng thing on BO... I gave up on that site and I tried hard. I cant figure it out... If i ran bad, or i just cant figure out uber fish. I have $16 left from $400 there.... Im just using it to bet on sports now.....lol
oth.... Im doing really well on another site... up allmost $900e in the last 3-4 weeks... and im not putting in alot of volume. (mostly ring games) try switching sites... |
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| sandman369 |
I dunno man, I am a decent player when I'm in the right mood, but that's rare and erratic. I have a pathetic life and am depressed most of the time.
After more than month at Bet Online and only ever getting my BR as high as ~230 (and losing 100 the next day), when other guys easily did 1k in a month, and then spewing it all away and hating myself even more, it's clear I should just quit poker until I feel ok about myself. Because you can be the best player, but if you will eventually tilt it all away, it doesn't matter how well you play and for how long you can go before it happens. Peace out everyone. Maybe I'll be back some day if I get a hold of my life. In such a bad rut that I don't see that happening, but hey, I still have just enough hope left to not give up on life. I'll stop plaguing this poker forum with my personal mental problems, I'm sure people are sick of me. |
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| forced |
Take Care sandman...
remember.. everyone runs bad ....trick is, to look for the good! trust me... I do know how hard that can be. I have had extreme depression in the past.. I broke out of it.... probably due to my stubborness. (thankfully, I was'nt playing poker at that time) cheers. love life. |
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| GreenEyez826 |
What site are you playing on? |
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| forced |
High Pulse Poker... however, since I've cashed out most of it, I have not been doing well at all there. This may be due to I am working insane hours right now and playing very little poker. I'm not in the groove at the moment.... playing tired.. etc. etc. (insert lame excuse's here) but still definately a site worth checking out in my opinion.. especially for tournament grinders... they seem to be ridiculously easy.... |