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welshdentist

New Bankroll start for 2012

I hope I am like many, I still think of myself as new to poker

Having played poorly, gone through the HUSNG course and played LESS poorly I thought it was time to stop being a fish.

Armed with my new wait 5 flashes of the Pokerstars avatar before acting, I am 7-1 for the day at $1.50

I hope I am right but I truly think I previously played too quickly and bet/raised without thinking. I have learnt a lot, but it isn't unconscious knowledge.

I had my Jerry Mcguire moment looking through a hand history, seeing plays and thinking how did I lose to this idiot.

Then realised I was looking at my own play.  Embarassed

We've all been there, new start, new graph....




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gl sailor
welshdentist



So far so good.

Losses were 99 vs J7s and they hit two pair  Confused
77 vs A5 and they spiked an Ace
TT hitting a set on the flop but losing to a flush.

But as always there was so good varience in the other matches too Cool

All in all I am pleased as I have lost matches to close marginal situations, all of which I would have done the same against the player type and situation given my current level of play and poker education.  Cool
chesslw

Nice work so far mate!

I doubt you remember me, but I actually played you I think like 4 games on Fulltilt waaaay back before I discovered tagpoker (at the $1.10 games).

You played under "welshdentist" with the nurse avatar right? You were quite friendly in chat- and was saying you are trying to learn the game (I think you didn't discover tagpoker at this point yet either).
welshdentist

lol that was me, and that looked like my dental nurse at the time

I'd literally played in the pub a few times at that point...

Still a fish though lol
welshdentist

I'm guessing you won?
welshdentist



Gonna keep posting often as it fires me to keep going with play ans study. Had toughest match to date. Hybrid TAG/Tight Passive....he did have fold button though....

He would raise preflop regularly, follow up with cbets, but when he showed weakness on the turn with a check or small raise and small bet or check raise pushed him of most pots.

Finished off in style with a disguised flopped but flush and followed him to the river where I shoved and he snap called with the J high flush.

Fish on a heater keeps on going  Rolling Eyes

I am exclusively playing $1.50's on Pokerstars until I am happy to move up to the next level.

Run well guys gggggggooooogogogogogog
chesslw

Nice run so far Smile

I don't remember winning/losing, but I do remember I marked you down as a fit/fold robot postflop (sorry Razz), and looked to sit you whenever I saw (but later on I stopped playing husngs, and still later, I moved up, and you stopped playing anyway).

I think you were also 3xing your buttons at like 15bbs and I remember reshoving many Ax and other hands during endgame.

No worries though, we all started from somewhere, and I wasn't that great either at the time. (And a year ago before learning anything, I was the most tight passive fish ever- thinking about folding sets on dry boards etc vs other fish).
welshdentist

chesslw wrote:
Nice run so far Smile

I don't remember winning/losing, but I do remember I marked you down as a fit/fold robot postflop (sorry Razz), and looked to sit you whenever I saw (but later on I stopped playing husngs, and still later, I moved up, and you stopped playing anyway).

I think you were also 3xing your buttons at like 15bbs and I remember reshoving many Ax and other hands during endgame.

No worries though, we all started from somewhere, and I wasn't that great either at the time. (And a year ago before learning anything, I was the most tight passive fish ever- thinking about folding sets on dry boards etc vs other fish).


Amazing how our true faults come back to haunt us  Shocked

Whenever someone gets aggro on me, my default is still to be a fit/fold guy, but getting better at understanding mine and other players ranges and equity.

My endgame play would have been terrible, especially to shoves..

"He's shoved, he must have me beat, again...."
welshdentist

Very up and down week, played poorly imho but keep having days where I win and lose the same. As much volume as I can at present...

Looking forward to a big shift over the weekend....

welshdentist

Disaterous start to the week. My old game habits came back to haunt be playing heads up, calling too many streets with top pair, not folding two pair or trips when a tight passive lays into me....

Blah blah blah

I am not so sure if 6man STT SNG is not my true format.

I seem to do quite well in the format and my HU knowledge seems to help at the end




After a bad run at HU, and an ill thought out experiment at multitabling, I have decided to do $1.50 or $3.50 games 6max STT SNG on Pokerstars and see how I do.

Is it wrong to think certain formats suit you better?

Three downwards are sitting the same person a number of times and getting owned by skill or varience, mainly my poor skill tbh.

Last dip was my attempt at multitabling 6 man STT SNG
z1s6arn

You don't know enough yet. If you enjoy HU stick with it and go over your notes. It took me 1000 micro games to start winning consistently.

Stay patient and keep learning.

z1
welshdentist

Thank you, I have to say that is kinda where I was thinking.

Looking overt the course again with a few years expeience seeing hands/situations I am much better equipped to handle different situations but can make basic errors.

Given the volume I play I have to accept it takes time to improve.

Had a great session with The Angler last night going over HH as part of the pyramid. Great place to be Tagpoker.

I'm in no rush to make my fortune Wink
welshdentist

O.K nasty progress report

Lost 6 games in a row last night. Broke my rule of lose two, review HH.

I ran bad in a few spots and got the "Revenge Tilt" monkey on my shoulder. Lost to the same guy 4 times in a row. He was a loose aggro maniac and I just picked the wron spots to take a stand, or lost things like AQd vs 42o

Shocked

First graph is as close to I think an ev graph using poker tracker?




I am looking at how pokertracker can do a better ev graph for HU. That seem to indicate genral trend of  winning or losing chips as a whole (not matches) but does show All in ev

Second one is the current bankroll graph

I am finding the $1.50 on Pokerstars hard to beat without a very high volume due to what ends up with slight impatience seeing them call down three streets to hit low flushes when I bet size appropriately and they have little odds to call. That said if i can crush the $1.50's I think it will be so beneficial for my all round game. There are just so many loose aggro players at this level!!!!!

I keep reviewing my play though and have new rules inplace for watching out for all the different types of tilt.



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welshdentist

Just venting variance

So far today have lost with AQs vs 42, KK vs AK (it happens), out kickered on a set, a raise PF 4x with KK to a safe flop of 742, he checks, I lead in with 3/4 pot bet, he calls, turn a Q I fire again, he calls. River is a brick he leads for 1/4 pot, I relectantly call and he shows me his 72o Smile

Last two games against a total call station/LAG drooler

at endgame he min raised and I shoved with 88, obviously he called with 33 and I lost Smile

Second game he is calling down with bottom pair over and over again and i'm steadily picking up pots. Limped pot I have 72o

Flop K42 rainbow. He stabs as he has done EVERY hand, I call. On turn spike a set and bet, he raises I jam, he calls but out kickers my set by a single card. 82o to my 72o

I am not happy with my call of the stab, but that was a bit of a pissy hand.

Variance is what is is but this is a tough day.....

Seems The Micros can be tough to beat today.
welshdentist

Self imposed week off starts here

I 3x raise AKs, he re raises I shove he calls with KJo serbian shove monkey twat Wink , he hits straight on the river

A lot of bad beats today but was ahead when the money went in, which is all we can ask for.

Gonna spend the rest of the week reviewing HH's

Last nights shootout was a dream. Raises, folds, £bets and ranges....

I truly hate the $1.50 level on Stars at the mo....

I just don't have the skill to beat it, although when all in I have been ahead most of the time. I'm actually on 6 buy ins down for the month, but small ball and small bet sizing is getting run over for me today. So many donk overbets and big river bets out of nowhere. I'm trying to play sensible but it seems sensible tight poker gets run over at this level.

I seem to be exploitable to their big donk overbets and my obvious tighter than them style. Refuse to go up a level as I can;t see it being any better there.

Week off/Study...start again.

Cheers all
qattack

Make a video and post it. I'll give you my 2 cents, which may only be worth one, I don't know.

I spent four months studying and playing HUSNGs a little over a year ago. I play a very ABC game, which is fine for beating the $10 stakes.

Tight poker is (generally) good at this level. There are a few spots you will need to close your eyes and throw your chips in, but not so many.

Variance can be incredible, so sometimes it may seem that the correct strategy doesn't work. On the other hand, maybe it isn't the correct strategy.  Very Happy  It's hard to know sometimes!
welshdentist

Thank you, will see if I can get a video done this week but had two good HH reviews with The Angler.

Looking at my all in ev stats I'm way ahead.

I'm getting to end game scenarios 25BBs or less but losing the all in ev war this week. It's only 6 $1.50 buy ins but that's a big deal to my bankroll.

Just seems so hard to beat the stars nutters at the moment Smile

I understand there is very little fold equity at this level but it seems I get very little value when I have a hand but lose more when my first bullet for top pair or trips gets called and they make a better hand and push me off or bluff me off with large overbets.

I had a steady rate of 58% wins until today.


Need to move to .fr lol
YATHINNK

Rake at .fr is a killer, especially at the lower stakes. Plus if you're getting it in good there's not really any more you can do.
chesslw

Yeah...

Maybe you need to learn to pick spots to bluffcatch? Always think about their range. If they call down with draws/bad gutshots/floats, then you can check/call on most rivers oop for example even if they overbet (as long as you have seen them overbet with high frequency). Against fish who check down draws etc I valuebet bottom pair/A high ott oop and check call on safe rivers. You should be slightly passive vs these guys, but not overtly so, and I guess learning to beat them just comes with more experience.

I remember playing on fulltilt way back vs someone who would always jam river after checking down 3 streets lol. I finished him when I had 102o and board ran out AA410A and of course I check/snapcalled his river shove 1400 into a pot of 60...
welshdentist

I know it's at a miniscule level. 6 buyins in the grand scheme isn't a lot. But I have to accept that others spewing is a strategy that works for them a % of the time.

The positive I take is that of everyone who beats me in HUSNG 99% don't want a rematch, which I assume is a good thing. Those that do tend to be stations on a heater or those that suck out and go mental.

I'm still relatively new in terms of hands seen and games played, all part of the education.
chesslw

welshdentist wrote:
I know it's at a miniscule level. 6 buyins in the grand scheme isn't a lot. But I have to accept that others spewing is a strategy that works for them a % of the time.

The positive I take is that of everyone who beats me in HUSNG 99% don't want a rematch, which I assume is a good thing. Those that do tend to be stations on a heater or those that suck out and go mental.

I'm still relatively new in terms of hands seen and games played, all part of the education.


Yep. Swings are just something you get used to imo. When I first started, I couldn't imagine what I would feel if I lost $50 in a day lol. But i've had a $500 two day swing back and forth already, and didn't feel a thing.
welshdentist

On the comeback trail

Reassessed where I am and how much I am going to play. Gonna study more than play for a while. Steady progress. Thanks for all the help so far....


welshdentist



1/3 way through HUSNG Mersennary Ebook and reviewing course notes...
welshdentist

Started to use a HUD with more information on it and had a steady build after my late night monkey tilt session mid month. Ground back from 7 buy ins down for one day to a 50% win rate for the month, 53.7% winrate for the year.

Studying more than playing at present, was 8 buyins down at one point so glad of the fightback.

Back to -$1.50 for the month woop woop, $3.54 up for the year.

Since my restart I am currently a winning player Wink

welshdentist

Running badly.

I'm keeping up with the study, reviewing hands and watching lots of videos.

Am going through the hyper turbo Chadders course to expand my knowledge of endgame and may help my volume issues applying sound principles to hypers. Also have the standard HUSNG videos to go over.

Understanding variance and poor play much more.

Learnt how to work out my ev using pokertracker. Simply divide difference between the expected and actual chips won and divide by $1500 to work out ev adjusted buyins at reg speed.

Conversely divide by $500 once I've played 200 or so hypers.

Planning to mix both game types as they train the poker brain differently. Have read Jared's book on The Mental Side of things and like everything you have to experience something to truly appreciate it.

I know I am improving as a player, but have many leaks to plug as time goes by but for me, I had to KNOW I was running poorly as to spend a lot of time at regular speed micro buyins and be losing for me is a bit sould destroying playing so many spew monkeys and stations yet running bad was not filling me with confidence and motivation.



From this I'm about 18 buyins down on reular speed HUSNG's.

I actually am a lot happier seeing this and understanding the variance better.

This gives me an ev adjusted rough win rate of 61% at the micro stakes.

Just keep going.... Cool

It's my first ever moment of not caring about the result, but to know my process of playing is improving.
welshdentist

Just looking through my stats and seeing obvious leaks.

Stopped calling draws without the odds as much.

Analysed my shove and my call shove stats

First up Villain Shoved, Hero called



Then the Hero Shoved, Villain called





I was getting down with my play, and can see many leaks but I am just running horribly bad in the endgame atm

Sorry this isn't as much about bankroll as my current state of play. Am working hard though.




Around 7 buyins down. Ding well considering my stats  Rolling Eyes
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