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blsmur

My BR Build Aussiekiss on tilt

Hi Guys  I have just discovered this thread  and some of you guys are inspiring

I have been playing HUSNG for a few months now and I had a very hard time getting my head around it

I did the coaching  with Broker star and got some great reviews of my game along the way from other members Thankyou to them all

So i have started husng with $8 in my fulltilt account

and pretty much only ever play husng on tilt  I have had my BR to $97
but it is back to $80 this morning after being busted at the post 5 times
but if you have ever looked at my graph  , I run bad  most of the time
I think when it turns around i will make leaps and bounds
any way my BR is back to 90.69  after about 10 games to day $2 buyin
I have a rule that I am not going to move up until I get it to $100

well the 97 was close but i have been back to 80 a few times  SO perhaps writing in here will help me move over the $100 thing

is this a psychological point my brain cant get over .

I dont know but the $80+ is where i have been for quite a while
I havnt always been playing HUSNG every day .

I have been studying Forex pretty hard and i have been cleaning up my  pokeratings.com results one level at a time
playing 6 tables 1/2 cent games on stars  :blsmur:  I have reduced my losses from $33 to $16  over the last few time i played when i have that in the green i will tackle my  next level

The only other thing I have to say is my game overall is good , I am winning  at poker i  play at every site i play at
including the new pokerview webcams and all

so I hope i can get over the $100 sometime this week on tilt
thanks for reading  I will post some stuff as it develops
blsmur

I was just checking my stats on holdem manager
and i discovered i put an extrra $50  inot the fulltilt account

so i have only built it up $41 at this stage playing $2 husng

i have made some new notes cos I think i forgot some stuff

any way $9 to my next level
z1s6arn

GL blsmur!!!!

Cant wait to hear you smashing the $100 mark!

Take care!

z1 Cool
blsmur

had a few good games today and got $99.59

i just spoke to Brokerstar and tell  him just one more game to go

and i can move up but it was not to be

i had him nut straight on turn all in
and he shows AQ

i got KT

flop A Q J

I bet he calls turn T
I shove he calls with 2 pair  
ha ha I think to my self
and just As I do the Ace on the river

who wrote that book should be shot
i am left with $200
and my opponent changes  his game plan
and the rest is history
will i be doomed to another 2 weeks before i get to $100

4outs he has on the turn 8% approx  

but that is how my poker games goes
i have been on the wrong side of variance  for well over 200 games
it must turn around sometime soon
and let me balance up a bit

must it ?
blsmur

I DID IT

well this morning i made the $100
been hard for me
and I know I am still making mistakes

but i will move up now


woohoo Laughing


YATHINNK

If you feel you are still making a lot of mistakes then stick with the level below and make sure that they're all ironed out first Smile
blsmur

this is my latest graph
you can see where Blazing and Chris b gave me a hand  and up i went then i fell back to my old ways  a bit and stagnated so i review the notes  from Blazing and /chrisb again and i going ok




blsmur

Wow these $5 games a way softer than $2 games

or I am playing better

i guess by the end of the week we will see

anyone want to try me

feel free
YATHINNK

YATHINNK wrote:
If you feel you are still making a lot of mistakes then stick with the level below and make sure that they're all ironed out first Smile


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blsmur

hi Yathink

thanks for the advice but i am doing ok at the $5

i am sure i am making some mistakes  
but i am happy with my game

couple of the games i lost today

were like all in me with TT and him with 66
i lose cos that is how i run

and some similar stuff to that

but mostly i win  


I have been  waiting for weeks to crack the $100 in my account  and i havnt always been playing husng  i have spent plenty of time playing fullring on stars  and quite a bit on pokerview  webcamming it  

but i decided to push ahead with the husng  

it is fun poker and it is a test of wills and wit  
and  I enjoy it
if you think you would be interested in giving me a lesson i am happy to pay you $xx for an hour
YATHINNK

haha nah I couldn't I'm not good enough to become a teacher yet. Just saying that even with the most minor leaks you want to make sure that you can crack them and work on them before you start moving up.

For example I had started to lose at the stakes I was playing and, thus, I stepped away and didn't play at all for a while. All I did was learn as much as I could and then when I had plugged the obvious mistakes I pushed on at the level below (at this point I was losing at the 10s so dropped to the 5s) After that I powered back through and if it weren't for the fact that I do a lot of other stuff with my life I would almost definitely be a lot higher than I am atm.
U Cook Socks

YATHINNK wrote:
haha nah I couldn't I'm not good enough to become a teacher yet. Just saying that even with the most minor leaks you want to make sure that you can crack them and work on them before you start moving up.

For example I had started to lose at the stakes I was playing and, thus, I stepped away and didn't play at all for a while. All I did was learn as much as I could and then when I had plugged the obvious mistakes I pushed on at the level below (at this point I was losing at the 10s so dropped to the 5s) After that I powered back through and if it weren't for the fact that I do a lot of other stuff with my life I would almost definitely be a lot higher than I am atm.


Ha Ha, yeah, Mainly cos I kept on at you to slow down a bit  Very Happy

Good advice though, I still stand by the fact that playing lower and concentrating on getting things right, will always be far superior to bombing a long trying to get to the mid-high stakes in five minutes flat. The most important thing is to have some kind of plan. Know where you want to go, and work out a reasonably way that you can get there, that pushes you hard, but isn't so far out of reach it makes it a chore.
blsmur

A heads up on where I am at

well i have played 18 $5 husng ontilt today

the picture says it all
one of the losses i did an all in bluff on the river repping a flush but the other guy just didnt get it    lol
so i play him again and win , no bluffing this time

some of the others i just got pipped at the post  but mostly I was on track and had good reads and gave em hell

heres a pic and my account is now $149

by the way if you cant read  it just save as and zoom in  



ChrisB

Quote:
one of the losses i did an all in bluff on the river repping a flush but the other guy just didnt get it    lol


lol gold!
evprop

hey blsmur!!

GL to both of us, ur slightly ahead of me atm and ill try to keep up!!

how many games a day do you play on avg?
blsmur

it depends on the time i have available

I am rebuilding a horse trailer for a friend and it take time but on wet n windy days i play poker n stuff so it can range from 2 or 3 to 20  I dont seem to ever play more than 20  I think the brain has had enough by then
and i study poker and forex everyday as well so never a dull moment


PS I look forward to your challenge  , and I am happy to play you again or skype some  more anytime
evprop

whats forex??????/
U Cook Socks

evprop wrote:
whats forex??????/


I thought it was Australian Beer  Very Happy
blsmur

xxxx is aussie beer from QLD   we dont drink that shit down here  either vic or melbourne


as FOREX it is trading currencies
and it is leveraged  so $1 reps about $100

do a search for forex
blsmur

update on my Bankroll build


well it sux
to say i am disappointed would be an understatement  
it seem the only reliable way to win is to get it 1 chip at a time
as  if I get it all in  preflop i lose so many
and even on the flop  i get rivered so often
as you can see i should have $70 not minus $48

i the most i got into my account so far is $159  my current level is $59

It would seem i have failed the Brokerstar course  miserably
as i cannot get those pretty graphs like on the front page of the site


I think i am about over heads up play  



Jakester1288

Mate don't worry about it, it's variance. Don't give up, you need to just keep reviewing and posting hands, also I'd recommend getting a coach to do regular reviews with (once a fortnight or month), and also a study buddy/partner for quick check-ups on skype, and also maybe 1 HH a week or something.

GL!
U Cook Socks

I am going to give you an opinion, you don't have to listen, you are totally free to disagree with me, but I am telling you, in the hope that it helps you.

I am going to post a quote from your opening post on this thread.

"The only other thing I have to say is my game overall is good"

You have to get this out of your head. Your overall game isn't good. If it were, you would be beating $5 games really hard. Even with variance, over that many games, if your game was good, you would be smashing the games so hard, variance would just be a little blip on a nice upwards line.

Don't take this as an offensive post. My game isn't good either, when your game is good, you make very few mistakes, the less mistakes you make, the better you will do. That is how poker works, if you make less mistakes than your opponents, you will win money (in the long run)

I have said it before, and I honestly believe this, there is enough free information on this site, to allow anyone of average intelligence, to beat the micro games, I'd say up to $10 at least. It is all there on a plate for anyone. It wont just happen though, you have to put hard work in to it, really want to get better as a player.  

Without trying to be rude, a lot of your posts are spent arguing with people trying to help you. I have seen you on numerous occasions arguing with good players, that they are wrong , and you are right. This will get you know where at all. Just one example, one of the first posts I read off you, you were arguing with Red_Dog about something, now it's fine to have an opinion, but I said at the time, just take a look at how much money this guy has made playing poker. He has won it for a reason, and maybe you would be better off asking questions, rather than telling him he was wrong. For what it's worth, he is the person who has helped me the most on this site as a poker player.

I have tried to help you too, but you often seem to think I am being offensive, and take things the wrong way. I'm not, I am actually taking time out of my day, to try and help someone I don't actually know, who lives the other side of the world. I don't get paid for it, I just try and give something back to the Tag Community, as they helped me become a winning player at the low stakes at least.

It doesn't matter how much good information you read, how many videos you watch, how much coaching you get, it wont help you, if you don't absorb it all, and put the information in to practice. It is all there for you, but YOU need to be able to use it well. Take a step back, re assess where you are at, make a new plan, there is a lot of good information where to start in my thread http://tagpoker.myfastforum.org/about2311.html there is also lots of other great information on the site. There is a ton of other good information on the site too.


Give it another chance, give it your all, I mean really give it everything you have got, if you are really serious about it. All said and done, if you can't beat the micro games after a few thousand games, then you really do need to ask yourself if poker is for you.

All the best

Mark.
blsmur

Jakester1288 wrote:
Mate don't worry about it, it's variance. Don't give up, you need to just keep reviewing and posting hands, also I'd recommend getting a coach to do regular reviews with (once a fortnight or month), and also a study buddy/partner for quick check-ups on skype, and also maybe 1 HH a week or something.

GL!


Thanks Jakester

i have a couple of guys that chat  on skype

but more  are welcome
blsmur

Blazing_Saddler wrote:
I am going to give you an opinion, you don't have to listen, you are totally free to disagree with me, but I am telling you, in the hope that it helps you.

I am going to post a quote from your opening post on this thread.

"The only other thing I have to say is my game overall is good"

You have to get this out of your head. Your overall game isn't good. If it were, you would be beating $5 games really hard. Even with variance, over that many games, if your game was good, you would be smashing the games so hard, variance would just be a little blip on a nice upwards line.

Don't take this as an offensive post. My game isn't good either, when your game is good, you make very few mistakes, the less mistakes you make, the better you will do. That is how poker works, if you make less mistakes than your opponents, you will win money (in the long run)

I have said it before, and I honestly believe this, there is enough free information on this site, to allow anyone of average intelligence, to beat the micro games, I'd say up to $10 at least. It is all there on a plate for anyone. It wont just happen though, you have to put hard work in to it, really want to get better as a player.  

Without trying to be rude, a lot of your posts are spent arguing with people trying to help you. I have seen you on numerous occasions arguing with good players, that they are wrong , and you are right. This will get you know where at all. Just one example, one of the first posts I read off you, you were arguing with Red_Dog about something, now it's fine to have an opinion, but I said at the time, just take a look at how much money this guy has made playing poker. He has won it for a reason, and maybe you would be better off asking questions, rather than telling him he was wrong. For what it's worth, he is the person who has helped me the most on this site as a poker player.

I have tried to help you too, but you often seem to think I am being offensive, and take things the wrong way. I'm not, I am actually taking time out of my day, to try and help someone I don't actually know, who lives the other side of the world. I don't get paid for it, I just try and give something back to the Tag Community, as they helped me become a winning player at the low stakes at least.

It doesn't matter how much good information you read, how many videos you watch, how much coaching you get, it wont help you, if you don't absorb it all, and put the information in to practice. It is all there for you, but YOU need to be able to use it well. Take a step back, re assess where you are at, make a new plan, there is a lot of good information where to start in my thread http://tagpoker.myfastforum.org/about2311.html there is also lots of other great information on the site. There is a ton of other good information on the site too.


Give it another chance, give it your all, I mean really give it everything you have got, if you are really serious about it. All said and done, if you can't beat the micro games after a few thousand games, then you really do need to ask yourself if poker is for you.

All the best

Mark.


Thanks Mark

I must say i didnt think i was arguing with REd Dog  at anytime  I cant find the post .
i did argue with Nawicht  he is the guy from holland  and runs the home games

anyway  I was hopefully over that and moving on but it obviously sticks in your mind
so I apologize wholeheartedly to everyone I have argued with . Please accept my apologies and lets all move on

When I make posts to anyone  that is having problems I try to give them my best opinion and help where i can , if I feel I am qualified to give an opinion  or at least I will give what I would do in that situation .


As to my ability to learn ? well I have obviously learned something about poker over the last few years  I study everyday  and I try very hard .
I have trouble believing my opponents and obviously think they are bluffing too much
and sometimes I catch them out  only to be rivered  by them

I was watching the vid of Betmagic  being reviewed by Brokerstar  earlier from last year , I have not seen it before  and it brought up a lot of stuff I have been doing wrong  and it was then backed up by Keirgaarde  so I have taken some of that on board and then play another few games and found myself still doing some things wrong , but i realized  and made a mental note  so I am definitely trying .

my goal for hu poker was to improve my heads up game when i make final tables or final 2 players

when i play cash games now i  start tables to get hu practice  in and small table play  experience , this is something i always tried to avoid in the past
i first started playing tournaments and that means mostly playing full tables  and i also like 9 man sng which i do quite well at  
but my hu was lacking most tourny players play hu poorly  so i am trying to fill in my weak spots  

I have read your 1000th post before   I went over it again  to see what i should or could change  with my management of money etc
and to honest i dont have any mistakes there

my hu game

my problem is I am not accepting that I am beat and wont fold some hands  like 2nd or 3rd pair to a raise   and i call way too much with way to little , which catches some wild bluffs out
but it is not a good strategy


So
I am trying very hard


my goal for poker is to play all forms well
hu is just part of what I am doing i will put in another 1000 husng before I move on to tournaments as my primary game again .

Tilting
I try not to tilt but when i lose so many critical hands to absolute morons getting lucky  it phases me a bit ( i will review the Tommy Angelo tapes again)


Well Mark
Thanks for your posts

I will keep at it
I love poker
i love watching it on tv  
I love playing it
and  I want to win a major tournament eventually
so all my study is to this end

Regards Ron
kolonel

Chin up champ.

I went through the same thing as you, thinking why am i not winning at this game after doing the course too ?  The main thing was to learn the game, and play to what you have learned every time you play.  When you dont, have the ability to see why.  Still not sure where you went wrong, post it in the forum.

For me, it's easy to whinge when someone hits a 1 outer after getting stacks in, but it was harder to tell myself "i did nothing wrong in that hand".  Becoming results orientated its one of the worse leaks, i reckon anyway, most can have in this game.  You look at some of the guys that have become winning players, and you will see it is a long and sustained journey over 100's, if not 1000's of games.

I get a sense of dejavu reading this, and can only say, that if you can commit yourself to the game, you will do well out of it.  Don't look for any easy or quick fixes, but just keep at it.  Due to a few reasons i was unable to commit enough time and resources to this game, and felt that because of my results i was no good at all.  This was not entirely the case at all.  The grounding is there (the course) and as Blazing said "so much free resources" are also available too.

It's all about application.

You made mention about not folding 2nd and 3rd pair hands when maybe beat.  These are the defining moments that can make people better players.  It was so easy to think "bullshit, he's bluffing" then to later look at it and see that he was the type of player that you should be folding those sort of hands.  And it is these results that get you thinking about your ability to beat these players, and not being able to move onwards.

Tilt is such an ugly beast, but overcoming it is the biggest key component to making average players better.  It will be the difference from losing 2-3 buyins, to blowing off your BR to "get it back".  There are no fixes for this, but there are many options to see which will work for you best.  There has been many ways talked about in these forums.

Now i am no expert player, or winning one for a fact, but i realise what it takes to become a better player.  I couldnt give enough to becoming this, and i hope you are not too disillusioned about it too.  Now that i have everything sorted out, I will hopefully be back playing in the coming weeks, and being a fellow Aussie, could be a good opportunity to work something out (unless you are a Collingwood supporter, then eat shit and die).

All the best mate.

Regards
kolonel
blsmur

hi guys
well I am growing again
but have not played much this week

I am still on the fulltilt leader board  but I suspect i will drop off later in the month as I get overtaken by higher volume players
this is the start of the horse breeding season here and i have a lot of work to do for my wifes business
I build the electronics for her

you can check her out here [url] www.foalguard.com [/url]

so when i am back to $100 account i will go back to the $5 games again

ok later
Very Happy
blsmur

up to 90 today  been fluctuating around here since yesterday so
hopefully i will mak eit to
$100 plus today

i have been watch my flop play  and trying to get reads on my oponents

also have been playing the 4 mans  and one  8 man  shootout  got 2nd in that
and i win a few 4 mans
you  only have to win 2 in a row to make very good money in these

in the 8 man win 2 and you are in the money so the 3rd game is basically a free roll

ok later
doodiewiz

My first read I look for is does check check oop = weakness??? Often seems to be a source of chips. GL dude!
blsmur

doodiewiz wrote:
My first read I look for is does check check oop = weakness??? Often seems to be a source of chips. GL dude!


yes it seems universal
perhaps we should reverse tell it

I have been reading up on flop play  
the questions are

what is my showdown equity ?

what is mt steal equity ?

which is the correct play  for this hand ?

if steal equity is low then we must play value hands

if our opponent folds a lot  we can steal

i try to steal nearly every hand these days

and i try to steal it on flop too

this works well against tight player and learners

but i get so sucked out on  its not funny  

and despite all this i am growing

my br
so just $5 to go

hmmm I  wonder
blsmur

i signed up for one of those 8 player shootout

just a
$2 buyin
and my opponent goes all in first hand

goes all in 2 hand
goes all in 3 rd hand
goes allin 4 th
goes allin 5th hand
i have
A8 off  I  call
opponent shows 78 off
flop  A 7 2

turn 7
game over

this is how i roll
i should never race as my graph proves it I  lose
no matter how much a favorite I am before the flop

so i play another one and  lose every hand i play
although i manage to steal some  
but if it came to showdown i lose

i figure this part of my game is why i have such a hard time building this BR

so I shouldn't Race
and i shouldn't go to showdown  with what size hand

my 2 pair get busted my 1 pair get busted

i put opponent on completely wrong hand  and get busted

just  bitching  

sorry
kolonel

Patience grasshopper.

Not much you can do with the cards that are dealt, but i dont think getting it all-in with A8o is the answer.  You are about a 60% chance against someone shoving 100%, but with early blinds you can just sit back and wait for the right time.

Would you play this way if he shoved only once or twice before ?  Would you call a shove with this hand if it was the first hand ?

I am sure it may be worth the wait, than letting him make you rush into a play you would normally not play.

Good luck with it.

kolonel
U Cook Socks

A8 is a call, if he is shoving every hand. By the time he has done it 5 times in a row, I am assuming he is doing it every hand. Nh, unlucky.
blsmur

kolonel wrote:
Patience grasshopper.

Not much you can do with the cards that are dealt, but i dont think getting it all-in with A8o is the answer.  You are about a 60% chance against someone shoving 100%, but with early blinds you can just sit back and wait for the right time.

Would you play this way if he shoved only once or twice before ?  Would you call a shove with this hand if it was the first hand ?

I am sure it may be worth the wait, than letting him make you rush into a play you would normally not play.

Good luck with it.

kolonel


he shoved all hands from the start

my thinking was A8 was good enough for that  

A8 against 100% of hands in poker stove  is 60/40
it was 6 hands he shoved in a row i was down to 1350 already
i dont know what  hand  I could be waiting for  really as he can fluke it with any two cards to make 3 of a kind with one card is about 50 to 1  i think
anyway hand histories below

Full Tilt Poker Game #31130173083: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:50:26 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,500)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,500)
pokaplaya169 posts the small blind of 15
Aussiekiss posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [6c Qd]
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,500, and is all in
Aussiekiss folds
Uncalled bet of 1,470 returned to pokaplaya169
pokaplaya169 mucks
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (small blind) collected (60), mucked





Full Tilt Poker Game #31130174469: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:50:35 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,470)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,530)
Aussiekiss posts the small blind of 15
pokaplaya169 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [7d 8c]
Aussiekiss has 15 seconds left to act
Aussiekiss calls 15
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,530, and is all in
Aussiekiss folds
Uncalled bet of 1,500 returned to pokaplaya169
pokaplaya169 mucks
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (big blind) collected (60), mucked





Full Tilt Poker Game #31130177239: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:51:00 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,440)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,560)
pokaplaya169 posts the small blind of 15
Aussiekiss posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [6d 7c]
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,560, and is all in
Aussiekiss folds
Uncalled bet of 1,530 returned to pokaplaya169
pokaplaya169 mucks
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (small blind) collected (60), mucked





Full Tilt Poker Game #31130178386: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:51:09 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,410)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,590)
Aussiekiss posts the small blind of 15
pokaplaya169 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [Th 8c]
Aussiekiss calls 15
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,590, and is all in
Aussiekiss folds
Uncalled bet of 1,560 returned to pokaplaya169
pokaplaya169 mucks
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (big blind) collected (60), mucked





Full Tilt Poker Game #31130180584: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:51:29 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,380)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,620)
pokaplaya169 posts the small blind of 15
Aussiekiss posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [Jh 6h]
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,620, and is all in
Aussiekiss folds
Uncalled bet of 1,590 returned to pokaplaya169
pokaplaya169 mucks
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (60)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 60 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (small blind) collected (60), mucked





Full Tilt Poker Game #31130181573: $2 + $0.25 Heads-Up Shootout (241728601), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:51:37 ET - 2011/06/19
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (1,350)
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (1,650)
Aussiekiss posts the small blind of 15
pokaplaya169 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aussiekiss [8h As]
Aussiekiss calls 15
pokaplaya169 raises to 1,650, and is all in
Aussiekiss calls 1,320, and is all in
pokaplaya169 shows [9h 7c]
Aussiekiss shows [8h As]
Uncalled bet of 300 returned to pokaplaya169
*** FLOP *** [2s Ad 7h]
*** TURN *** [2s Ad 7h] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [2s Ad 7h 3c] [7s]
pokaplaya169 shows three of a kind, Sevens
Aussiekiss shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
pokaplaya169 wins the pot (2,700) with three of a kind, Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,700 | Rake 0
Board: [2s Ad 7h 3c 7s]
Seat 1: Aussiekiss (small blind) showed [8h As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 2: pokaplaya169 (big blind) showed [9h 7c] and won (2,700) with three of a kind, Sevens
blsmur

well guys I have done it

back to $100  

this is good

I have discovered a problem in my game that i had trouble coming to terms with

I am not going to elaborate as i have quite a few from Tag poker coming to play me  these days
I am glad to say I am beating most of them

so you guys that come and call me "fish"

watch out my game is getting better  


Twisted Evil
z1s6arn

There a ppl from tag playing you and calling you a fish. Not cool.
ChrisB

I really doubt that, are you sure man?
blsmur

perhaps I wrote that wrong

i have had several guys from Tag come and play me  and let me know they from tag

one wrote blsmur=fish  

and i won
he was an aussie so it was cool   lol

so sorry if i gave the wrong impression

i was happy to get tag guys play me and i get lots of players call me names while playing them
Wannawin

you are also blsmur on other forums....DTB etc?
but yeah if TAG players are trying to find/play you and berate that would be out of order.

ps I can never find you - diferent timezones I think  Wink
blsmur

Wannawin wrote:
you are also blsmur on other forums....DTB etc?
but yeah if TAG players are trying to find/play you and berate that would be out of order.

ps I can never find you - diferent timezones I think  Wink


I am playing less now because of work commitments i have this time of year

but usually i am playing in my morning  so that would be 11 pm plus uk time
and my evening 7 am plus uk time  

and i would be on either poker pokerstars blsmur or fulltilt aussiekiss

i have also been on the  trupoker pokerview and switch poker
blsmur

well my fultilt challenge is obviously out of the window for a while


so i am doing now on pokerstars

I  am playing heaps better and think i have got the game i was supposed to get when i first did the course of Brokerstars  full course

i have had heaps of other stuff to do lately and poker has taken a back seat

first time in nearly 5 years

but i have been playing again and doing ok in both husng and cash games

so i will continue my bankroll build on stars  for now

I think i took time off waiting to see if stars was going to the wall too like Tilt has

so far its still up and running  so i will play again a fair bit  from now on
lookout guys here come BLSMUR

fair dinkum !
blsmur

Well I sign up on William Hill poker

trying win some extra coaching with  Dom


So how is my poker going

well i have given it quite a break

lost interest with the full tilt thing

but then i get some more emails from Brokerstar  and watch some vids
and I am back

jakester decided to take me up on my challenge  i posted in this forum a few months ago

so we playing 10 games

3 played so far

i will try to build my pokerstars account  currently about $40

and william hill i put in $35 yesterday


so i will be playing on both of these sites
Aussiekiss11 on william hill

blsmur on pokerstars


as well as poker i am trading Forex and that has taken most of my time lately  as i have been programming a robot to make my trading easier
well that is it for today

lets hope this new go  will be fruitful
blsmur

I signed up fro Will hill pokersite

and i have been doing ok overall
but this morning i got done 2 times in a row  by
bad  players getting lucky

ie
45 off call my all in preflop
i have K4s
and we hit the 4 on the flop
and of course he gets the 5 on the turn


and next game i have very agg  oponent  reraise every hand
and if i call shoves turn or river
so i get 88 pre
and i raise he re raises i shove he call
with KQ off
and i lose

other than that i have done well on on will hill heads up

and my br is up 50% so far
NinjaReads

I've got a few bucks in an Ipoker account so I sat in a beginners game last night and you sat me.  I told you I posted on here but you mustn't have chat on. There are speech bubbles on there, you should turn them on.  Smile

Anyway, you started very aggro. after about 25 hands you were 80%+ vpip on the button and 80%+ in the bb, with a 3bet nearing 50%. But the 3 bets were all min3bets and the ones I seen at showdown were not great hands either. Also you weren't cbetting them either.

Things like this.

Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1455.00 72.75 BBs
BB: t1545.00 77.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3
Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t100, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t200) 7 J 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t200) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t200) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t200
BB shows 2 K
BB wins t200.00



Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1805.00         45.12 BBs
BB: t1195.00         29.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with T K
Hero raises to t100, BB raises to t160, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t320) 7 3 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t320) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t320) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t320
BB shows K 4
Hero wins t320.00


And you were still min3betting near the end with no cbet.

Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t2265.00         56.62 BBs
BB: t735.00         18.38 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to t80, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t240) 8 K J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t240) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180.00, BB calls t180

River: (t600) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t600
BB shows 9 9
Hero wins t600.00


There were also a couple of minraise bluffs like the J6 you raised pre, didn't cbet on a K82 flop but min raised bluffed on the turn.

I played quite a few games and the standard was pretty awful as you'd expect at that level. Everyone never folding a gutshot, calling triple barrels with bottom pair, mindonking draws, never folding an Ace. All the standard drooler stuff. Just play basic poker in those games. No need to be 3betting guff. 3bet with good hands and 3x them. Start inflating the pot post when you hit something, not pre with K2 off. If you're going to bluff post flop then have a few outs to hit but I'd just keep the bluffs down to a bare minimum. These fellas are not folding 62 off on 2TJQK 4 to a flush boards.

But yeah, the min3bets with crappy hands. You've played a few games now, I'm not sure where you've learnt that stuff from.

Boring ABC poker is the game down at those levels.
blsmur

NinjaReads wrote:
I've got a few bucks in an Ipoker account so I sat in a beginners game last night and you sat me.  I told you I posted on here but you mustn't have chat on. There are speech bubbles on there, you should turn them on.  Smile

Anyway, you started very aggro. after about 25 hands you were 80%+ vpip on the button and 80%+ in the bb, with a 3bet nearing 50%. But the 3 bets were all min3bets and the ones I seen at showdown were not great hands either. Also you weren't cbetting them either.

Things like this.

Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1455.00 72.75 BBs
BB: t1545.00 77.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3
Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t100, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t200) 7 J 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t200) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t200) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t200
BB shows 2 K
BB wins t200.00



Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1805.00         45.12 BBs
BB: t1195.00         29.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with T K
Hero raises to t100, BB raises to t160, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t320) 7 3 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t320) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t320) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t320
BB shows K 4
Hero wins t320.00


And you were still min3betting near the end with no cbet.

Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t2265.00         56.62 BBs
BB: t735.00         18.38 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to t80, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t240) 8 K J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t240) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180.00, BB calls t180

River: (t600) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t600
BB shows 9 9
Hero wins t600.00


There were also a couple of minraise bluffs like the J6 you raised pre, didn't cbet on a K82 flop but min raised bluffed on the turn.

I played quite a few games and the standard was pretty awful as you'd expect at that level. Everyone never folding a gutshot, calling triple barrels with bottom pair, mindonking draws, never folding an Ace. All the standard drooler stuff. Just play basic poker in those games. No need to be 3betting guff. 3bet with good hands and 3x them. Start inflating the pot post when you hit something, not pre with K2 off. If you're going to bluff post flop then have a few outs to hit but I'd just keep the bluffs down to a bare minimum. These fellas are not folding 62 off on 2TJQK 4 to a flush boards.

But yeah, the min3bets with crappy hands. You've played a few games now, I'm not sure where you've learnt that stuff from.

Boring ABC poker is the game down at those levels.


hi
thanks for the post

when i play on will hill I am building electronics
so certainly not my best game
no I didnt see your chat  
I open the notes box as soon as the game starts
and i take notes when i need to
i dont have a hud on that computer  so I just try and play as per my read of the situation  

i am not concentrating on the game at all
so I am not surprised at the fact I am in 80 % of pots

When i play  inside with my hud on I do temper it a bit  

one of the things I have discovered in recent weeks is the fold button and the stop betting button

I realised after my big argument of a week or so ago

I learn this super agro stuff  from a guy here in oz , that claimed to have been a student here
we played a lot of games and reviewed them .
3 bets were a lot of his strategy and generally he was very agro to play and to beat him I found i needed to do the same

I will get those hh from yesterday and bring them over to this comp and have a look at them

i only broke even yesterday or possibly down 1 buy in  

I f i decide some players wont fold i will give up on my bluffs  or weak hands

i think you might be AndersonAA  I have played a few times now  I and do tend to give some respect to a call from him

so if I bet preflop  with ATC   yes i do give up early  

and wont even cbet  sometimes  

so it is good to get your perspective  on  my game  

I have just moved up to $3.50 on pokerstars  and i have been playing  4 man husng  and turbos and regs
making a good 67% win rate  
but I am not building electronics at the same time
and i have a hud running  so I can keep myself in check  my vpip varies 80% to 50%  and pfr  60 % to 25% depending on my opponent
and that seems to work ok  

its 6 am here and I have to run my son to the train  , so I will get those hh when i get back  and have a real good look at them
and post my thoughts  be at least an hour and half
regards Ron
blsmur

blsmur wrote:
NinjaReads wrote:
I've got a few bucks in an Ipoker account so I sat in a beginners game last night and you sat me.  I told you I posted on here but you mustn't have chat on. There are speech bubbles on there, you should turn them on.  Smile

Anyway, you started very aggro. after about 25 hands you were 80%+ vpip on the button and 80%+ in the bb, with a 3bet nearing 50%. But the 3 bets were all min3bets and the ones I seen at showdown were not great hands either. Also you weren't cbetting them either.

Things like this.
Quote:


ok i have review these games from yesterday
4 wins 3 losses  not a great day
you are clearly not AndersonAA
well in the hand with my K2 and your 33  when i 3 bet you i was expecting a fold  as played i put you on pp and was not betting again
on the river in hind sight I should have bet
but i might have been interested in what cards you were holding


Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1455.00 72.75 BBs
BB: t1545.00 77.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3
Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t100, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t200) 7 J 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t200) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t200) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t200
BB shows 2 K
BB wins t200.00



Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t1805.00         45.12 BBs
BB: t1195.00         29.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with T K
Hero raises to t100, BB raises to t160, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t320) 7 3 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t320) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t320) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t320
BB shows K 4
Hero wins t320.00


ok in this hand i realise di made a mistake and just shutdown  the 3 bet was a complete waste of money as it was no where big enough it should have been $300 imo


And you were still min3betting near the end with no cbet.

Quote:
Hero (BTN/SB): t2265.00         56.62 BBs
BB: t735.00         18.38 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to t80, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t240) 8 K J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t240) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180.00, BB calls t180

River: (t600) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t600
BB shows 9 9
Hero wins t600.00

yep  i muffed this one good   i think if anything i should have shove preflop  but with those high cards a fold would have been correct

Thankyou again  for your input i will slow it down a heap  
by the way my vp 55 pfr 33 lim sb 28  st 42 3 bet 20 4 bet 9 over 2 k hands


There were also a couple of minraise bluffs like the J6 you raised pre, didn't cbet on a K82 flop but min raised bluffed on the turn.

I played quite a few games and the standard was pretty awful as you'd expect at that level. Everyone never folding a gutshot, calling triple barrels with bottom pair, mindonking draws, never folding an Ace. All the standard drooler stuff. Just play basic poker in those games. No need to be 3betting guff. 3bet with good hands and 3x them. Start inflating the pot post when you hit something, not pre with K2 off. If you're going to bluff post flop then have a few outs to hit but I'd just keep the bluffs down to a bare minimum. These fellas are not folding 62 off on 2TJQK 4 to a flush boards.

But yeah, the min3bets with crappy hands. You've played a few games now, I'm not sure where you've learnt that stuff from.

Boring ABC poker is the game down at those levels.


hi
thanks for the post

when i play on will hill I am building electronics
so certainly not my best game
no I didnt see your chat  
I open the notes box as soon as the game starts
and i take notes when i need to
i dont have a hud on that computer  so I just try and play as per my read of the situation  

i am not concentrating on the game at all
so I am not surprised at the fact I am in 80 % of pots

When i play  inside with my hud on I do temper it a bit  

one of the things I have discovered in recent weeks is the fold button and the stop betting button

I realised after my big argument of a week or so ago

I learn this super agro stuff  from a guy here in oz , that claimed to have been a student here
we played a lot of games and reviewed them .
3 bets were a lot of his strategy and generally he was very agro to play and to beat him I found i needed to do the same

I will get those hh from yesterday and bring them over to this comp and have a look at them

i only broke even yesterday or possibly down 1 buy in  

I f i decide some players wont fold i will give up on my bluffs  or weak hands

i think you might be AndersonAA  I have played a few times now  I and do tend to give some respect to a call from him

so if I bet preflop  with ATC   yes i do give up early  

and wont even cbet  sometimes  

so it is good to get your perspective  on  my game  

I have just moved up to $3.50 on pokerstars  and i have been playing  4 man husng  and turbos and regs
making a good 67% win rate  
but I am not building electronics at the same time
and i have a hud running  so I can keep myself in check  my vpip varies 80% to 50%  and pfr  60 % to 25% depending on my opponent
and that seems to work ok  

its 6 am here and I have to run my son to the train  , so I will get those hh when i get back  and have a real good look at them
and post my thoughts  be at least an hour and half
regards Ron
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kolonel

blsmur wrote:
NinjaReads wrote:


Boring ABC poker is the game down at those levels.


hi
thanks for the post

when i play on will hill I am building electronics
so certainly not my best game
so I just try and play as per my read of the situation


i think you have identified one reason why you are not travelling as well as you like, and your reads will be affected by it too

blsmur wrote:
i am not concentrating on the game at all
so I am not surprised at the fact I am in 80 % of pots


If you really want to make a go at this, i really think you need to be playing your A game whenever you can.  Distractions, lack of concentration is probably one of the reasons you are not getting the results you were hoping for.  If you are still playing these as a hobby, and happy to not have a good grasp of the game, then so be it.  I just think if you are/were prepared to spend money on becoming a better player, there is already a couple areas you can look at plugging.

blsmur wrote:
I learn this super agro stuff  from a guy here in oz , that claimed to have been a student here
we played a lot of games and reviewed them .
3 bets were a lot of his strategy and generally he was very agro to play and to beat him I found i needed to do the same


I think a 3betting strategy is the least of your problems.  Identifying opponents and their tendencies would give a more solid basis in beating these games over a realistic sample.

blsmur wrote:
so if I bet preflop  with ATC   yes i do give up early  
and wont even cbet  sometimes  


Another area of your game you might want to look at then.  Perhaps go back through player type videos from Broker, and see how this strategy will not be optimal, and concentrate on villain tendencies and how to play against each type.

blsmur wrote:
so it is good to get your perspective  on  my game  


Always good to get another perspective, as long as you take it on board and utilize the information given.  Its a reason why this site has had so many successful players, purely from listening to what others have to say.

Good luck with it all.
blsmur

kolonel wrote:
blsmur wrote:
NinjaReads wrote:


Boring ABC poker is the game down at those levels.


hi
thanks for the post

when i play on will hill I am building electronics
so certainly not my best game
so I just try and play as per my read of the situation


i think you have identified one reason why you are not travelling as well as you like, and your reads will be affected by it too

blsmur wrote:
i am not concentrating on the game at all
so I am not surprised at the fact I am in 80 % of pots


If you really want to make a go at this, i really think you need to be playing your A game whenever you can.  Distractions, lack of concentration is probably one of the reasons you are not getting the results you were hoping for.  If you are still playing these as a hobby, and happy to not have a good grasp of the game, then so be it.  I just think if you are/were prepared to spend money on becoming a better player, there is already a couple areas you can look at plugging.

blsmur wrote:
I learn this super agro stuff  from a guy here in oz , that claimed to have been a student here
we played a lot of games and reviewed them .
3 bets were a lot of his strategy and generally he was very agro to play and to beat him I found i needed to do the same


I think a 3betting strategy is the least of your problems.  Identifying opponents and their tendencies would give a more solid basis in beating these games over a realistic sample.

blsmur wrote:
so if I bet preflop  with ATC   yes i do give up early  
and wont even cbet  sometimes  


Another area of your game you might want to look at then.  Perhaps go back through player type videos from Broker, and see how this strategy will not be optimal, and concentrate on villain tendencies and how to play against each type.

blsmur wrote:
so it is good to get your perspective  on  my game  


Always good to get another perspective, as long as you take it on board and utilize the information given.  Its a reason why this site has had so many successful players, purely from listening to what others have to say.

Good luck with it all.


thanks mate

i have certainly had some issues  

i had a bad start this morning shoved A8 and got called by AJ
I didnt need to shove I was being lazy and thinking he should have a fold button   "wrong"

and the next game  i did something similar and ended in a few hands

So  I stopped doing it  
and believed this next guy when he bet  and if he didnt bet  I was stab at flop
this proved successfull  strategy
he tried to bluff one river but i had a pair and correct odds to cal his bluff with 2nd pair

so  I will take this line in future

I am reading  players better in general  than I have in the past

so thanks guys  I will keep at it
Our breeding season has slowed down and will be over soon  So i will be out in force

cheers
AxeMage

good to hear things are going well!

got a few games over this weekend at odd times, but we should play again in a week or so once i get all this random stuff i gotta do, out of the way... see you on skype soon!

good luck!
blsmur

I am amazed at how ingrained this aggressive game is in me

i can control it for a while
then i am doing the silly things again

i was checking on this guys stats that got me playing like this  and i see he hasnt played for a few months and his account is empty

or at least he lost what the balance was and not played on stars since

so i guess it is pretty evident that this style is not great

i will keep at controlling  my tendencies to shove  and fold hands pre to keep my hud about 60 40

i think if i do that it will help in the overall control of my game

of course mixed with this until 2 weeks ago was i never fold AA KK QQ  so this was a big leak
and i was happy to shove Ax anytime   , still do this a bit but i am trying to stop it
also i realize now that  against some players shoving the weak aces  is not a good idea because some of the better ones dont call with anytrhing less than AJ  
So if i am called I am mostly losing  if not called i win 40 chips

might as well fold it preflop  as shove it

so just venting might help me stop doing it

B E on will hill today

down a few on stars  so will try and get it back to BE be the end of my day
Jakester1288

lol @ folding to keep your hud stats at a certain amount.
blsmur

Jakester1288 wrote:
lol @ folding to keep your hud stats at a certain amount.


yep its funny   Jake   but

if it saves me money it will be good
blsmur

well just thought i should give a report on my  husng play

i must say I am way better now than i have ever been

playing
$3.50 and $7 on stars

still playing when i work on will hill
got down to a $1 on will hill but back at about $7.5 now
just been playing the $1 games on there
had 3 games in a row that just sucked  the other day but been ok last few times i play

only can play 3 or so games on there as i am trying to build electronics at the same time

when i not wqrking  I am playing on pokerstars  you will find me in the mornings my time and in the evenings mostly

i have racked up some good wins and i won a 32 man husng $7 buy in  and got an 8th  in another one
overall the Bankroll is growing

anyway  i am now a winning player and i am getting better  , way better then i have ever been

Laughing
blsmur

Hi I'm Back

been very busy doing other stuff for quite a while
the foaling season has run later this year due to flooding  and i still have foaling alarms to build , normally we are well and truly finished by now

I  have also been full on into programming EAs for forex
thats a brain stretcher .

But i have become quite good at programming now and currently have 3 EAs running live and making money woohoo !

the best part of forex is you dont have to be there to make money
just check in 1 or 2 times a day is sufficient  but i tend to  check about 4 times a day for about 10 minutes

I have stropped playing poker while i work
this has made quite a difference to my game

I didnt play poker for 3 weeks

this is the longest time in 5 years I have had off from poker

and it has done me so much good

well I am back at it now  still, no where near a good player but doing ok
I think
I still can lose with the best hand so often

and i just did the Brokerstars Quizz this morning
and I got it 100% right
that is a first for me and i havnt dont it in the last 6 months at least

so I must be thinking way better then i have previously

I think I can now grow as a poker player

A few months ago I think I was very "off the planet" with my poker and my thinking in general, I dont know why  , maybe I was over tired or just brain fried
but I am back in force and hope to be moving up some more in the near future
thanks for reading

Ron

PS : I have made a dedicated area in my workshop for poker and forex  
it is comfortable and no interruptions  "really good"  
I bought a new laptop for inside  so i can still play  from in there
and i have been running teamviewer  and controlling this computer from inside
so I have the best of both worlds now
Laughing
kolonel

blsmur wrote:
I have stropped playing poker while i work
this has made quite a difference to my game


blsmur

kolonel wrote:
blsmur wrote:
I have stropped playing poker while i work
this has made quite a difference to my game




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