Is it just me?

thedesbois · Is it just me?

I'm under the impression that when I play at night on Pokerstars (my time), after 10:30PM NY time and until 5-6 am, at the micro stakes, players are super aggressive? I mean maniacs. That is playing people in the same time zone as me and from Europe. Seems the night brings a lot of drunks/gamblers.

Am I the only one who noticed this? I hate maniacs. They force me to take thought decisions, even when I have a hand. Increased variance playing them.

What are the best times to play? I guess peak traffic times?

Thanks,

D

U Cook Socks

Maniacs are the best players to play, and that's a fact. You never have any problem getting paid off.

If you don't like thinking about hands, or making tough decisions, I would suggest you find an easier hobby.

thedesbois

I'd ask on 2+2 if that was the kind of constructive answer I was looking for.

I'm here to learn.

You state the "fact" that they are the best players to play. May I suggest that this fact might not be universal?

For someone who states facts, you quickly switch to assumptions.

It's bad for Broker's business. You see, your mere presence on this forum has made this post of mine my last.

All the best to the rest of the community.

Denis

U Cook Socks

thedesbois

Where do you play? I'd love to railbird and learn from you.

U Cook Socks

U Cook Socks on PokerStars, Blazing_Saddler on Full Tilt (when it was still alive) and Ucooksocks on Celeb Poker (I poker)

You might not have liked my answer, but the harsh reality is, that poker is about making decisions, thinking about every hand should be standard. What I should have said is, that if you learn how to handle these maniacs, they are the most profitable guys to play.

Sorry if I caused offence, it really wasn't my intention.

doodiewiz

Yeah I think out of all the player types other then good players these guys can be the most difficult to adapt to, but once you've figured it out when they start raising 4/5x pre every hand or whatever they do you'll come to love these guys. Maybe watch some of Brokers vids on loose aggressives or post some hands or matches where you've had trouble...

kolonel

Chin up mate, as Doodie said, go and watch a video on aggro types. So often they stack off with 2nd/3rd pair.......

even K high Wink

Brokerstar

You do have to learn to embrace your demons to be honest. You always get times when everyone seems agro or patches when everyone is a calling station.

The truth is that as you climb the stakes, you will face more and more aggressive players and so have to be comfortable playing them.

At the lower stakes, many over agro players are just spewtards that when you play in a certain way, you get them to put all their chips in so bad. I have to agree with Blazing in as much as that makes you feel like you've reached through the computer screen and crushed someones soul like a grape.

To be fair Blazing is probably the most helpful guy in the world and spent countless hours, selflessly helping others improve their games. I'm sure if you're nice to him then he'll give you some pointers too. Wink

U Cook Socks

In retrospect, my post didn't come over that well, was early, and probably didn't take enough time to explain correctly.

I am a bit confused though, why would you not want to play gamblers ? You are there making educated plays, and they are there, thinking " I have two cards, I call, I like Pie" You have a huge edge over these players. I don't claim to be a great player, it's not some ego trip for me, I'm really not like that. People don't always like the truth, and the truth is, if you want to be good at poker, making tough decisions is going to have to be second nature to you.

I don't know what stakes you play, but I would imagine that at the micro stakes, time of day would make little difference to what type of players you play, 99% of them are fish, your aim is to be in the 1% that isn't. As you move up the stakes, you will find that the time you are talkiing about is the prime time to play, cos in the day, the tables are littered with Regs, hunting a few fish that come along. I am assuming you aren't already playing higher stakes, I could be wrong, but even if you are, you can still take something from this paragraph.

I'm not trying to sound offensive, or anything like that, but I think rather than worrying about playing at a different time, just concentrate on learning to beat the maniacs, then you will come to love them, like your first pet.

U Cook Socks

Brokerstar

Blazing is a boss!! Shocked

YATHINNK

thedesbois

Hey Blazzing,

I'm sorry for my "time of the month" reply. I know your style of reply can be direct sometimes and very funny, when I'm not the one it's directed at. Wink

My bad.

U Cook Socks

StasKo

OP,
i have also experienced this player-type-time-difference.
in my country when i play in the morning its seems that most players in the 15$ stakes are bad but at other times i mosty encounter decent TAGs.

so yeah its nice for me to play in the morning but eventually i realize that at some point i will go up in stakes or even go down (like when in a big downswing) and i will have to learn how to deal with all kinds of opponents.

there are no shortcuts in poker just like there are no shortcuts in life - if you want to be good at something you have to work hard and face with everything that comes in your way

good luck!

thedesbois

StasKo,

Thanks for sharing.

After reading all the posts and yous, I realize I was looking for a shortcut indeed.

A life long reflex for me. Did that in school and all my regular jobs. Too easy it was.

That's why I love poker. It'll force me to become a better person. Or break me. Smile

Good luck!

Simba

No, you are absolutely not alone in this. For me it seems to be the Russians (and Europeans in general). All stupidly loose-aggressive, and I don't know how to deal with them.

The way I see things is as follows. I have three options against people like this:

1) Go into a call-down mode, calling down lighter, but this is a bit crap since he has two ways to win the pot (by making me fold or by having the best hand at showdown) compared to only one for me.

2) Fold the normal amount. This just seems silly but I may as well list it as it is an option.

3) Start raising him lighter, but this also seems bad since if I raise my second pair for value and he calls (or even 3-bets!) as these loose people do, what the hell do I do on the next street when I'm unimproved? Sure, he MIGHT fold if I c/r the flop, and bet big on the turn and river, but do I /really/ want to commit a huge amount of my chip stack to find that out? And do I really want to do that for 'value' with second pair? That seems ludicrous.

So there doesn't seem to be a 'good' option. It seems all my options are crap. Really frustrating - I used to be a winner at the $5s but now I break-even/lose at the $1.50s with all these damn LAG players even at the tiniest stakes that have showed up lately...