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The Angler

Good site for HUSNG+rakeback

I've been playing on Full Tilt with reasonable success, the other day I was looking at my stats in Holdem Manager and noticed that the rake I've paid is a little over half the size of my profits. So I'd like some advice on picking a site with rakeback, Titan is not an option as I signed up through Holdem Manger to get the software for free, I was thinking about Pokerstars but it seems I'd be better off using a different site with higher rakeback as the Pokerstars rakeback only gets good at higher stakes. Also I'm already attached to an affiliate with Full Tilt so no rakeback there, any suggestions?
BetMagicMoney

I was at UB for a while and it was pretty good there!
Tischtennis

if FT is not good for you...<i dont think you should look after "great sites"!
No doubt FT and Stars have the best software, which I think plays a big role in the long run..Anyway you should probably look after what site that have the 3 most traffic.....I dont know how high you play but the traffic can be sick low some places and often better players (some site at least)
The Angler

Tischtennis wrote:
if FT is not good for you...<i dont think you should look after "great sites"!
No doubt FT and Stars have the best software, which I think plays a big role in the long run..Anyway you should probably look after what site that have the 3 most traffic.....I dont know how high you play but the traffic can be sick low some places and often better players (some site at least)


I'm at micro stakes right now.

Was UB good BMM? What was the traffic like and why did you change?
Tischtennis

Donīt use UB if you are a Mac user...
The software crash.....just in case Smile
Borg7

In my opinion there is no alternative to FTP (except maybe PS) simply for security reasons and because their software is by far the best on the market. What's also quite important is the fact that it's the 2nd biggest poker site out there.
If you don't get rakeback you should play games where you have a huge winrate (deepstack husngs) and rakeback will become more and more irrelevant.
butitwassooted

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Donīt use UB
This. Do not support cheaters. Plus they offer nothing above other sites, except superusers and dishonest customer service I guess.

If you liked Titan, its just a skin on the Ipoker network, there are tons of them.
All the same software/players, just a different name.
If you want a good offer, you can PM me, I dont want to spam the forums.

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What''s also quite important is the fact that it''s the 2nd biggest poker site out there.
Less important when you are only playing micro''s no? Same to a lesser extent for the security.
Dr_Anger

UB and Absolute both offer 30% (maybe 33?) rakeback along with a VIP Program that could get you more money into your account just for playing there. (Same sort of deal as pokerstars, just not as good obviously.)

Also, I know that Absolute (not sure about UB) both offer frequent reload bonuses. As many as 4-6 a month. If you take advantage so you are always clearing one you could/should be netting >40% rakeback.
butitwassooted

Dr_Anger wrote:
UB and Absolute both offer 30% (maybe 33?) rakeback along with a VIP Program that could get you more money into your account just for playing there. (Same sort of deal as pokerstars, just not as good obviously.)

Also, I know that Absolute (not sure about UB) both offer frequent reload bonuses. As many as 4-6 a month. If you take advantage so you are always clearing one you could/should be netting >40% rakeback.


Yes! They sure are generous with those! That's why they are retroactively changing bonuses all the time, without telling anyone. Among more scandals one can count, with new ones arising up to this day.

(looked up a couple from the top of my head, I'm sure there are loads more)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...st.php?p=22104488&postcount=5
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...ltimatebet-scandal-sticky-251207/
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/s...4&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...s-doesnt-encrypt-its-data-778017/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...t-gets-shipped-him-anyway-369065/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...lly-exposed-other-stories-769966/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...g-discovered-898462/#post22233992
http://www.pokertableratings.com/...urity-alert-cereus-poker-network/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...-errors-cheating-accounts-712287/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...o-rigged-x-posted-nvg-zoo-898568/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...an-i-see-what-people-fold-772028/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...b-bad-beat-jackpot-rigged-197214/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...w-who-xblink-640459/#post14797356

Do you belong to this group of shills perchance?http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...g-815995/index2.html#post20820357

Cliffs: By playing there, you are willfully supporting proven cheaters, indian mobsters, and deserve everything that's coming to you.

And especially if you're not American, there is no excuse to be playing there.
Only a complete idiot plays on that site.
lemon

The post above is full of so much win, forums might just crash. Do not support those scumbags.
Dr_Anger

Yes, thank you for attacking me for no reason whatsoever. PM Brokerstar or whoever else is a mod and have them run an IP check on me. I've never played on UB or AP in my life, I just know some stuff about their VIP program and reloads because I've looked into playing there in the recent past. Didn't realize it was a crime to offer advice on a forum in a thread where the guy was asking where else to play. Thanks for making me feel welcome.
BetMagicMoney

butitwassooted wrote:
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Donīt use UB
This. Do not support cheaters. Plus they offer nothing above other sites, except superusers and dishonest customer service I guess.

If you liked Titan, its just a skin on the Ipoker network, there are tons of them.
All the same software/players, just a different name.
If you want a good offer, you can PM me, I dont want to spam the forums.

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What''s also quite important is the fact that it''s the 2nd biggest poker site out there.
Less important when you are only playing micro''s no? Same to a lesser extent for the security.

Dude there not that bad else they would be out of biusness! Yes they have had some trouble in the past but thats what it is, in the past! there are at least 3 people on this site who are decent winniners that are playing on UB!
butitwassooted

Dr_Anger wrote:
Yes, thank you for attacking me for no reason whatsoever. PM Brokerstar or whoever else is a mod and have them run an IP check on me. I've never played on UB or AP in my life, I just know some stuff about their VIP program and reloads because I've looked into playing there in the recent past. Didn't realize it was a crime to offer advice on a forum in a thread where the guy was asking where else to play. Thanks for making me feel welcome.


Meh, openingly recommending Cereus sounds like a legit reason to me for attacking that post. Nothing personal. And how could you have done research on them, yet recommend playing there? Does not compute.
butitwassooted

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Yes they have had some trouble in the past but thats what it is, in the past!

''some trouble'' Cheating tens of millions from your customers over a 5 year span, only to cover it all up when it leaks after years (to this day), among numerous other major scandals. Not even a company shill would expect to get away with calling that ''some trouble''. Wow. This level of ignorance is staggering, to say the least. I so hope you did not only not glance over the links I posted, you hopefully did not even read the text in only the hyperlinks. Because if you did, yet still say this, well, wow.
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the past

Yes!!! just ''some trouble''!!! and only in the past!! They are totally legit now!!! No more troubles, no sir!!! Nothing to see here, move along!!!






OH WAIT!!!!!

04-29-2010 (does this count as the past???!!!)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...an-i-see-what-people-fold-772028/
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''UB!! Why can I see what people fold?''

Well, just one serious glitch in their completely built from the ground up software after the scandals, a supposed ''landmark in security, the most secure pokerroom client out there'', right???!!! Just this one!!! Could happen to anyone!!!



OH WAIT!!!!!

05-07-2010 (does this count as the past???!!!)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...s-doesnt-encrypt-its-data-778017/
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UB/AP (Cereus) doesn't encrypt it's data.

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In fact, the encryption that the Cereus Network employs isn’t so much encryption as it is encoding. To see how simple it is to decode this data, simply open up your windows calculator and set it on scientific mode. All that is really necessary to decode the data stream is the XOR button .

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As a computer engineer, this is an extremely serious security flaw that shows a level of incompetence previously unheard of (even for UB).


Oh well!!! At least you had to put the highly advanced hacking tool also known as ''windows calculator'' to advanced mode!!!!! If that isn't enough to keep everyone from seeing your password, not to mention your holecards, I don't know what is!!!!
But you can be assured that's it right???!!! surely there are not more extremely serious software issues waiting to be found by their customers???!!! Not after all this!!!




OH WAIT!!!!!

10-16-2010 (does this count as the past???!!!)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...o-rigged-x-posted-nvg-zoo-898568/

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AP Casino's keno game is rigged. Its RNG is not at all random. There is absolutely nothing to be gained from rigging casino games with a 30% house edge, it's just a big sign of ridiculous incompetence of the highest degree.

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Disclaimer: The level of incompetence required from Cereus for such a security flaw to be real would be so great, I'm having a hard time believing that this is true.


Yeah, but... it's only software!!! That could happen to anyone!!! They are not covering anything else up!!!

Like a completely new cheating scandal, unrelated to the numerous others, ongoing from at least 2004, to the princely sum of 100 million dollars!!! Now that would be unbelievable!!! Nay, impossible!!!




OH WAIT!!!!!

10-16-2010 (does this count as the past???!!!)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...g-discovered-898462/#post22233992

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Joe Norton/Paul Leggett (henchman UB) is alleging "newly discovered" cheating at UB over and above what has already been reported. They dropped the news on a Friday evening to keep it low-key, but it seems pretty important and definitely a new wrinkle to the scandal.

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Also the release says it "caused former Chief Joe Norton to abandon the internet gaming business''

Joe Norton is this fine gent (fun read) http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...ut-ultimatebet-joe-norton-251958/
BTW, This is where all your rake is going, indian mobsters, plus of course the old owners, perpetrators of the cheating, who are still running operations behind the scenes (this is proven).

If a mobster boss jumps ship, seeing the severity of the case, and alarm bells are still not ringing...

+ They claimed to have paid out $22M but there is no proof of that number!!!
+ It's just strange that Uri Kozai testified he used a complete database to determine the $15 million settlement figure between Escpasa and Blastoff for refunding players losses, then poof the HH disappeared!!! Why would they purposefully deny sending customers there old handhistories???!!!
+ They have still not named the names of all 88 cheating accounts!!!
+ they claim to have alerted ''the authorities''  on the persons responsible for raping the pokerrooms all those years, yet refuse to name said authorities!!!
+ There is the recent XBLINK scandal!!!
+ The BB jackpot being won by the same person twice in a row, someone never seen before or since playing!!!
+ Many more!!!

+ Bonus:
Eleven Grover, a journalist writing a book on the scandals http://deadmoneybook.wordpress.com/
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I also recently came to a conclusion of additional cheating (not counting the BBJ/XBLINK issues) occurred at the site.


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Dude there not that bad else they would be out of biusness! Yes they have had some trouble in the past but thats what it is, in the past! there are at least 3 people on this site who are decent winniners that are playing on UB!

I wanted to post something harsh in response to this mind blowing, ultra ignorant, but primarily just completely retarded statement, but instead I'll just say that I am speechless.

I have no words.
Wow.
Just... wow.

But lots of fishes there because you would have to be mentally handicapped to play on UB!!! Good luck guise!!! You'll need it!!! (did you know the owners of Cereus are defaulting on loans for $120 million and rising?)
cardassian

what about cake?

33% rakeback and i hear it has a decent amount of players
n1ghtah

cake seems like a good place. But the software stinks and i dont know about the customer service so cant comment on that. But i would still recommend staying on Full Tilt or Stars.

as for Full Tilt Rakeback go write them an email saying you dont have rakeback and would like to get signed up with rakebackpros.com thats FTs own rakeback company and ive heard from a few people that they have gotten rakeback through them. as it is FTs own affiliate. thingy. You could try at least.
butitwassooted

n1ghtah wrote:
cake seems like a good place. But the software stinks and i dont know about the customer service so cant comment on that. But i would still recommend staying on Full Tilt or Stars.


Haven't played there, but CS on Cake itself (they have many skins) is said to be excellent. And they are working on a new client.
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as for Full Tilt Rakeback go write them an email saying you dont have rakeback and would like to get signed up with rakebackpros.com thats FTs own rakeback company and ive heard from a few people that they have gotten rakeback through them. as it is FTs own affiliate. thingy. You could try at least.


If you signed up through a affiliate unknowingly by clicking a banner on a website, that aff. is getting your rake. So FT will never give it to you.
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