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| The Little Fish |
Fish - Shark ChallengeIntroductionHey guys, I’m going be starting my own bankroll thread. I previously started one where I managed to turn $50 into $260 but due to unforeseen circumstances I had to postpone it. Before that I managed to build up small roles playing a different variety of games but nothing great. (Never going broke but just had to withdraw etc...) I just started with $50 on FTP last week and built it up to $100 but because of the recently activity I have decided to switch to pokerstars and start a bankroll thread. The plan I’ll be starting with $100 and will be playing the $3.50 HUSNG’s on Pokerstars. I feel quite comfortable multi-tabling so I will be playing between 1-4 tables and any given time. I won’t be withdrawing any money until I at least hit the $50’s. This plan didn't work for me so i have changed my plan. The new plan I'm going to single table playing between 15-25 games per day. This will hopefully put me back on track and give me much more information on my opponents. My stats and graph before i start this challenge: 
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Goals: [ ]  $50 - $500
[ ] $500 - $5000
[ ] Single Table
[ ] Play between 15 - 25 games per day
[ ] At least one sweat session per week (so add me!)
[ ] Watch at least 2 videos a week
[ ] Reveiw 10% of my matches each day
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| hjbear |
gl im going to be restarting mine soon, have no internets atm 
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks mate, Hope you get your internet back up soon. What stakes will you be playing? |
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| Brokerstar |
Good luck with it man. I couldn't 4 table well if I tried so fair play to you if you can do that 
Broker |
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| U Cook Socks |
Good luck with it mate.
One video, and one sweat session doesn't seem much to me, I think you need to include more study time if at all possible. I guess providing you are going through you matches and so on, it is okay. |
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks Broker, I doubt as i'm going up stakes i will keep 4 tabling but we'll see how things go first. Would like to say a personal thank you to you and the website you've created. It has help me greatly and i will be looking to pay you and the community back will hopefully another successful thread.
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks Blazing. I'm going to review as many matches as i possibly can but i want to also include 1 Tagpoker video and atleast 1 sweat session each week. I won't be playing on the weekends as much so i'll be studying then the most. |
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| U Cook Socks |
Yeah, I forget sometimes, people have other things to do in life too. Just try and put a lot of effort in to getting better, as well as playing. You will be rewarded for it (eventually) |
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| The Little Fish |
Will do. Thanks for the advice, Appreciate it. | ||||||
| hjbear |
im going to be playing 5s an 10s but will be another 3 weeks atleast until my internet is back bad times for my grinding
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| The Little Fish |
Yeah that would be annoying but atleast its not too far away. Look forward to following your success! |
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| wap |
hey fish i enjoyed to read your progress in your old topic. looking forward in following this. 
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks will be starting now. |
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| drawingdead |
GL mate! I hope you'll hit the $50’s soon! | ||||||
| z1s6arn |
Welcome back man!
z1
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| ChrisB |
I think you need to change your name or something, fish sounds like you're clueless when you're obviously very good!
The Little Shark maybe ?
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks mate. Can only dream about the 50's right now..
Hey Z1, thanks man. Been following you still and f**king great progress. Keep it up mate.
Haha this made me laugh A poker friend of mine always calls me little fish so i just used it lol. I like it 
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| The Little Fish |
So today went ok, I should have been up alot more but i guess i can't complain. Didn't start off great but once i got the ball rolling and got back into the way of things i started to progess nicely. Ran at 12.5% ROI on the day.
Will be playing monday - Fridays up to 6pm because i'm always busy after that and on weekends but thats plenty of time to get some decent volume in. Here are my results from today. Daily Games Played: 40 Daily Won/Lost: 24/16 Daily Profit: $17.92 Total Games Played: 40 Total Won/Lost: 24/16 Total Profit: 17.92 Bankroll: $117.92 Thanks for all the support, really appreciate it and just motivates me even more! Off to coach Table Tennis for the next 2 hours...  Good luck!
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| z1s6arn |
Good to see you back.
Thanks for your kind words. It was really needed. Just having to take two weeks off from getting my diet wrong again. Meh.... Will start up again this next monday and in the meantime keep us all posted on your progress! z1 |
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks mate, look forward to following yours again. Yeah its good you're making the effort away from poker as well as in poker because a healthy diet just makes you feel, think and concentrate better. My diet could be better but yesterday i had cereal, soup, bread, fruit, pasta and chicken and i was feeling great. Then when i got back from table tennis me and my GF got a pizza quite late and now i woke up feeling like shit. Taking some time to relax and get hydrated before i start. Good luck for today guys! (unless your playing me!) |
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| The Little Fish |
So today was probably the worst i have ever ran. I lost 8 all ins when i was winning with 1 card to come, most of which were one outers.. I made a few errors but most of the time i got it in with the best hand or lost my AK/AQ to pocket pairs. Gonna eat some food and review some hands. I'm only 18 VPP's away from my first $10 bonus. Lets hope for a + day tomorrow as well as the bounus. Here is how my day went..
Daily Games Played: 45 Daily Won/Lost: 23/22 Daily Profit: -$6.76 Total Games Played: 85 Total Won/Lost: 47/38 Total Profit: $11.76 Bankroll: $111.76 |
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| The Little Fish |
Running even worst than yesterday so far. Felt like posting all my beats but no point boring you all with what you see every day lol. I'm not tilted but i feel like i'm going to lose everytime we get it all in...
Anyone free for a sweat session tonight please let me know. Never done one before so be gently lol. |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys,
so today was just as bad as yesterday. Kept playing all the maniacs that would shove all in on dry flops and when i get it in good i get sucked on. I'm running really bad and card dead but my play is to blame as well. I don't think i played badly but deffiently made the wrong play at times. I think i'm to tight with my OOP/3bet calling ranges (maybe lack of confidence due to the losing run) and sometimes rasing and c betting people that limp call... Before i started this challenge i really wanted to improve my volume to atleast 30-50 games per day but i seemed to be doing much better when i was only playing 10-15 lol. I know everyone has long breakeven spells but would it be better to go back to single tabling and only playing 10-15 games per day or just ride the storm. I kept a 10% ROI 2 tabling the 5/10's but currently running below 1% at the $3.50s (which is quite laughable) Results from today: Daily Games Played: 35 Daily Won/Lost: 17/18 Daily Profit: -$10.64 Total Games Played: 120 Total Won/Lost: 64/56 Total Profit: $1.72 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $111.12 |
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| savrababa |
I am not too experienced with HUSNG's but what I found out when I first started making volume goals was that tilting was easier.
I think the fact that I wanted to put volume in made me more impatient. I saw that my opponent was a fish in the first few hands and I wanted to get the match over with fast to get to the next one. So when those aggro monkeys showed up and specially if I was card dead or they outdrew me I went nuts. |
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| The Little Fish |
Yeah i understand but i wasn't rushing or felt tilted the entire session. The other thing i think that did effect me was confidence. Keep looking away when we went all in because i knew i wouldnt win. I just reviewed 3 losing matches that took place at the beginning/middle/end of my session and i seemed to be playing pretty solid apart from missing some value sometimes. I'm gonna ride out this week and re evaluate my plan on the weekend. |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys,
So today has been a very mixed day. I've stopped early because i feel im not playing my best game. I started great winning my first 6/6 then went on a 5 game losing streak. Them games were pretty brutal, 3 of them was a guy shoving all in almost every hand.. I waited for a hand and lost the race each time.. I've learnt to be much more patience and try to not to force the action. (i.e raising a guy OOP that limps everyhand) I have never been on a run this bad before but it can't be all variance. Here's how today went. Daily Games Played: 17 Daily Won/Lost: 8/9 Daily Profit: -$7.86 Total Games Played: 137 Total Won/Lost: 72/65 Total Profit: -$6.74 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $104.26 |
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| The Little Fish |
So i have been thinking about the structure/plan i have on a daily basis and i'm going to change it because it obiviously isn't working. My previous plan was to 2 table most of the time to get a decent amount of volume (30- 500 each day. I looked back at my previous thread and i was doing great single tabling without putting any sort of volume in.
The new plan I'm going to single table playing between 15-25 games per day. This will hopefully put me back on track and give me much more information on my opponents. I think the main thing i have learned from this experience is that you can't rush trying to learn everything and build a BR. It takes little steps that overtime will show how far you've truely come. Going to update my goals. |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys, Didn't play today as it was my brothers birthday and was out all day. Good news is i actaully have sometime over the weekend to play.
I have edited and updated my first post which includes my new plan and i have also updated my goals. Good luck!
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| blsmur |
I find when they start shoving every hand they just dont want to play you , because your putting them to hard decisions so try backing off a bit and if you need to get it all in prflop make sure it is well above average if you calling his all in good luck with where your heading |
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| U Cook Socks |
Looking good mate Good Luck. |
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| The Little Fish |
Just so annoying after being on a winning streak then you get people that dont even want to play poker and you know the match is just gonna end on a flip. In all fairness though i would prefer to play this people all the time as i know i'm gonna win more in the long run.
Thanks, I decided to go back to the way i used to play where i was obiviously winning and learning much more. |
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| NinjaReads |
I'm currently grinding the low stakes on Stars too now after moving over from FT for a change of scenery so I'll add you to Skype. | ||||||
| The Little Fish |
Nice one, I don't log on much so let me know when your online if you want to sweat. |
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| blsmur |
I m always available for sweats
blsmur |
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| The Little Fish |
Nice one, what stakes you playing? |
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| blsmur |
$2 but moving back to $5 again this week |
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| The Little Fish |
So my bad run continues.. Didn't play yesterday or friday but had some free time to play today. Only got 6 games in single tabling before i decided to stop as 5 loses in a row is my cut of point. Will post my weekly results and graph soon which i'm actually embarrassed about but oh well, it needs to be done to get me on the right track and hopefully i and others can look back and see what i actually went through.
Here are some hands today which i would like to see if its bad play or variance. This Guy was very LAG, raising all buttons, re raising and donk betting all the time. Poker Stars $3.29+$0.21 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1347304 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BB: t1545 51.50 BBs Hero (BTN/SB): t1455 48.50 BBs Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A  Q
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t90, Hero raises to t300, BB raises to t1545 all in, Hero calls t1155 all in Flop: (t2910) 4  5 T (2 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: (t2910) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t2910) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)
This guy was limping all weak hands and rasing strong hands. Was playing fairly loose. 3 barrelled with air after llimping. Poker Stars $3.29+$0.21 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1347313 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1780 35.60 BBs Hero (BB): t1220 24.40 BBs Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with 8 8
BTN/SB calls t25, Hero raises to t150, BTN/SB calls t100 Flop: (t300) T 6 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t150, BTN/SB raises to t300, Hero calls t150 Turn: (t900) T (2 players)
Hero bets t770 all in, BTN/SB calls t770 River: (t2440) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
This hand is abit of a cooler but would you have played it the same way or been able to fold here? Same as the guy above pretty much. Poker Stars $3.29+$0.21 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1347317 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t2060 103 BBs Hero (BB): t940 47 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4 9
BTN/SB calls t10, Hero checks Flop: (t40) 9 A 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero calls t60 Turn: (t160) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t140, Hero raises to t420, BTN/SB raises to t1520, Hero calls t440 all in River: (t1880) A (2 players - 1 is all in)
This guy was a TAG player but folded more buttons than usual. I think i personal overplayed this hand but his C bet was 100%. Played poorly? Poker Stars $3.29+$0.21 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1347318 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1700 42.50 BBs Hero (BB): t1300 32.50 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 6 A
BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero calls t40 Flop: (t160) 2 T 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero raises to t360, BTN/SB raises to t1620 all in, Hero calls t860 all in Turn: (t2600) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t2600) J (2 players - 2 are all in)
If anyone can take the time to respond to these hands i would be much appreciated. Thanks. |
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| ChrisB |
I like all of them fish, fwiw | ||||||
| The Little Fish |
Care to go into detail or do you mean i played them fine? |
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| ChrisB |
The only one i think might be a little marginal is the 94, but honestly two pairs on that board with the action seems like the nuts. The other 3 seem completely standard/well played |
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| The Little Fish |
Well he was always limping weak and wasn't adjusting when i raised so i didn't put him on a strong hand and thought my two pair is the best. He had J9. Thanks mate. |
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| blsmur |
my opinion of your hands hand one with AQ i thinki your looking to get it all in preflop particularly against and aggro player the trouble is with all in s we never know where we are and so we must lose some if he has a pp we are at best 50 50 and any other 2 card s about 70 30 not a lot you can do differently in my opinion hand 2 i dont like getting it all in on the turn i prefer preflop or just be prepared to fold during hand once you see a flop your 88 has dropped in value the board is wet you have over cards and flush draw and str8 draws the T on turn just give him the nuts a lot of the time hand 3 4 9 off even tho you flop a pair the ace has to scare you you make 2 pair ( almost the worst 2 pair ) and the board pairs aces you have been counterfeited now your 2 pair is shit just try and ck it down fold to action you beat by tt + and any ace and pocket 55 i doubt any one is bluffing here on the river last hand prflop i would 3 bet to 240 and most of the time the hand is over if he flats or shoves you could probably fold here on the flop as played i would shove all in not ck and call an all in i presume he has JJ + here and may not fold anyway but all other hands he is folding well thats my opinion fwiw |
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| The Little Fish |
Hand 1: He was such a maniac that i was never folding AQ because he was rasing like that everytime and he would donk lead every pot. I thought my AQ is way ahead of his range so i decided to 4 bet and when he shoves i'm never folding. He had 66. Is flatting really an option? Hand 2: He made that min raise twice before and folded after i called. I put him on flush/straight draw and didn't want to bet 300 and have to fold. He had 99. Hand 3: Didn't put him on an ace because he was raising ace rag and limping weak. The reason i re raised is because i think my two pair is best here most times and could be sacred off on the river if a 6 of spades comes etc. Hand 4: I could have just C/C once because he was fairly tight and i knew he had to have a pair. Probably alittle tiled by then. Why re raise so small? |
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| U Cook Socks |
Last hand, if you 3 bet to 240, what are you doing if he shoves over the top ? You are making a big bet, to win a small pot, and losing quite a few chips when he actually has a hand. Your hand actually plays quite well post flop too. |
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| The Little Fish |
End of week one
So this week has probably been the worst week of poker i've ever had. A mixture of bad play and bad luck but i've learned many things over this week and should hopefully now be on the right track. It shows i still have alot to learn, so i have made more time by decreasing my volume and looking to study more instead. Patience and observation are two things i think i lacked this week due to 2 tabling and slighty tilting. One day i will hopefully look back at this week and see how far ive come and hopefully be greatful of this experience. Played alittle today but not to much. Results from today and the previous week. Daily Games Played: 6 Daily Won/Lost: 1/5 Daily Profit: -$14.42 Total Games Played: 143 Total Won/Lost: 73/70 Total Profit: -$21.16 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $89.84 End of week stats 
End of week Graph 
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| icemanv6 |
First hand, I would just keep the pots small, and let him make mistakes post rather then gambling so much Pre, thats just my preference, i'd just flat his min re-raise hope to hit the flop and just let him bet the F and T hopefully then raise him on the T (Turn).
Second hand is fine, bit of a cooler, only folding to a player I know isn't going all-in without a made-hand, in which case I personally could fold, but it's likely just a cooler given your current runbad/stats, depends what kind of player you are, whether you call it a cooler/bad period or you can actually still get away from these hands 
Last hand is a flat or fold, if he's TIGHT-Aggressive, why are you raising all-in, basically your lucky if your A is live, and your basically playing the flush-draw, after he raises that much he isn't folding to your shove unless he has complete air, and if he's tight he wont be doing that much, not on that board. Last hand I c/call sometimes if I know oppo will shove any T so I just call to try hit a diamond and if I do I know I win the game, or just fold otherwise. |
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| blsmur |
on the last hand my view is he is raising with almost anything and the 3 bet will take it down most of the time if he flats or 4 bets then we need to make decisions based on that a 4bet really says big hand and Flat says pretty good hand so we need to fold to 4 bet and probably get it in on this flop if he just calls a flat may also say AA but personally i would shove my AA in that situation so i am thinking QQ or JJ as opponents hand if he just calls and perhaps TT |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys, didn't play much today as i was pretty busy but will update tomorrow. Good luck. | ||||||
| The Little Fish |
Hey guys, So i have been running and playing just as bad since last update. Even though today hasn't gone great i got my hand in best everytime except one so very happy with how i played.
I played a few 9 seater SNGs (my old game) just to take my mind away from HUSNG's but sadly didnt do great so my BR dropped even lower. Aces and jacks cracked on the bubble.. Played 8 of these which aren't counted but the BR is with both games. Here are my results from the last few days. Daily Games Played: 15 Daily Won/Lost: 7/8 Daily Profit: -13.69 Total Games Played: 158 Total Won/Lost: 80/78 Total Profit: -$34.10 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $75.90 As you can see i'm doing extremely badly. Fishingch621 has steaked me to play the 7's. Reason for this is because i'm not taking care of the low BI level, rushing and just feeling to much of a grind at the 3:50s. (Rake didn't help as well) So i now have a 210 BR looking to get it up to 350 and re pay him. Still the same goals. New Bankroll: $210.00 |
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| blsmur |
hey
I doubt you will achieve anything going this route and I wish you well but think you have made a mistake |
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| NinjaReads |
I'm not sure moving up when you're hardly beating the stake you're on is a great idea. Seems like a recipe for more tilt.
You should be beating the $3.50s for a double roi just playing like a total nit and hardly playing a hand. I'd say concentrate on beating them at a clip before moving up stakes. If the rake is the sole reason then try the shootouts, they are full of the worst players I've ever seen. |
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| The Little Fish |
Of course it probably isn't ideal but the main reason is because i'm used to playing higher stakes and doing well. Playing the 3:50's is such a grind and i dont feel motivated when im playing them. I'm studying more to help me improve my game. I know i must look like a complete fish but i was a decent winner at the 5's and a 15% ROI at the 10's before i had to stop. |
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| NinjaReads |
You're probably right, the rake is a good point which is why I recommend shootouts for anyone under rolled for the next stake up at decent rake. There won't be any difference in games I suppose. Rooting for you, I'll try and look out for you at stars and remember to load up Skype. |
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks mate. Need to support but running abit better so far. Won the last 4/5. Need to get together for a sweat session soon. |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys, so first day at the 7's has been a small success. I found i was being much more patience and more confident for some reason. Didn't get the volume in i would have liked but i'm deffiently not complaing after having my first winning session in a week. I did play 2 7's before the steak and won them both so currently won 8/12 at the 7's. Please poker gods let this continue!!! lol. Here are my results from today
Daily Games Played: 10 Daily Won/Lost: 6/4 Daily Profit: +$10.04 Total Games Played: 168 Total Won/Lost: 86/82 Total Profit: -$24.06 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $220.04 |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys,
So today wasn't to bad in the end. Been up since 9 and still couldnt put in the volume i would have liked but no rush i guess. Starting to play much much better, staying patient, getting good reads that i'm using to my advantage and getting it in good everytime. In the end i went 5-5 but i lost 99s to AQ (fair enough) AK to A4, AQ to KQ, jacks to k5 (4 8 10 flop) and lost a straight to a full house which in hide sight he couldnt have anything else but i would have been left with 300 chips.. (still a fold if your beat right!) Todays results Daily Games Played: 10 Daily Won/Lost: 5/5 Daily Profit: -$3.30 Total Games Played: 178 Total Won/Lost: 91/87 Total Profit: -$27.06 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $216.74 |
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| BetMagicMoney |
nice to hear your back at it GLGL
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| savrababa |
Way to go fish!
Keep at it.. |
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| The Little Fish |
Its taken awhile to finally atleast feel i'm playing better so lets hope i can run good. I can't go into enough detail about how you need to review your own hand historys. I've learned one major thing and small things about my game which hopefully will put me on the right track. Thanks for the support guys! |
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| U Cook Socks |
I think it was Red_Dog who said on here once "If you are always getting it in good, you aren't getting it in often enough" I'll leave you with that thought
Nice job anyway, good luck. |
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| The Little Fish |
Thats a very true statement but i don't always get it in good... just happens yesterday they were the hands that actually got called. Gonna be starting soon. |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys.
So today was another crap day. It really seems that i just can't win at HU anymore. I had 4 maniacs down below 500 and lost them all. Flush into flush, qq into kk (2nd hand in),AQ to JT, two guys shoved all in on the turn with f****** gut shots and obiviously have to hit. Then i called a questionable set of 9's that lost to a straight and then Ak lost to 85 on the 3rd hand of the match. Good stuff!!! I played some $1 MTT's and had a semi deep run in. 90/1400 but the payout was still ****. Sorry for the rant as no one really cares about other people beats. Todays results.. Daily Games Played: 16 Daily Won/Lost: 6/10 Daily Profit: -$33.45 Total Games Played: 194 Total Won/Lost: 97/97 Total Profit: -$60.61 Bonuses: $10 Bankroll: $183.29 |
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| The Little Fish |
Hey guys, Anyone here play the 7's on pokerstars? | ||||||
| The Little Fish |
Hey guys. Just an quick update. Ive paid back my stake to Fishingch621 and with the remaining money i purchase brokers condensed course. So for the next week or two i'll be learning the material so its ingrained into me then i'll be back either starting again at the 3.50's or 7's. Havent decided yet.
Looking for a person playing the micro/low stakes to get together twice a week for sweat sessions, so we can learn off eachother and improve together. Looking to do this long term so looking for someone who is serious about LEARNING poker. Hope you guys are crushing it. Good luck! |
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| z1s6arn |
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATE! 
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| The Little Fish |
Haha, thanks mate. Just to let people know ive been playing MTT's and been doing pretty good. Once i have everything in place i'll be starting a bankroll challenge of making 500 profit from HUSNGs. |
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| Brokerstar |
Really keen to see you stick with a format that you enjoy and crush these games.
Remember to always start each game with a blank canvas and make sure you define your opponent as well as you can and then use a good counter strategy and you will be fine. Before you play each day, I would watch 30 mins of a poker video and pause before any interesting hands, write down what you would do and why and then press play and see if the coach did the same thing. This will get your head in the right place before entering your games. Broker |
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| The Little Fish |
Thanks for the advice Broker. Your advice is priceless and i always make sure i do my best to follow what you've said. HU has always been the game i've wanted to master the most even when i first discoverd poker. I believe i'm now getting a good balance between making enough money to get by and having the time to commit to playing HUSNG, watching videos and reviewing sessions etc on a daily basis. (which i've yet to start but will be ASAP) I've always hated that i've not completed a BR challenge i started but soon i should have eveything in place to show you what i'm capable of and a nice new sexy graph that gets your blood pumping lol. |