stuckintilt
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Can draws be played profitablyCould someone enlighten me with what the proper protocol is for playing draws heads up?
I'm used to playing micro ring games where you often times have the odds to see if the next card will fill your draw and your implied odds are for the most part are good as well. There usually is a decent amount of people who don't believe you hit your card or views the additional bets as just being "pocket change".
In any case, playing with 1500 chips lead me to believe that draws can be chased to an extent at the early stages of the game where the blinds are still small relative to late in the game where it would likely put you all in. Am I thinking about this too loosely and digging my own grave when I don't hit my draw?
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U Cook Socks
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The thing to think is, no one ever has a hand HU. Draws can be played more aggressively, because you have so much more fold equity.
Implied odds are key when you are calling to hit draws, if you think you can get the villains stack if you hit, then it's obv profitable to call.
To be honest, a flush draw, when the blinds are high and effective stacks are short, is like the nuts.
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butitwassooted
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| Quote: | | Am I thinking about this too loosely | More like too passively. Stop chasing, and start check-raising. Good things will happen.
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nachtwacht
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You certainly think to passively at the moment.
You should not chase draws in the way that you are going to call a bet by villain and then hope to get payed off when you hit. Playing it like this has several problems:
1) If you hit, how do you know you will get payed off ? Often your opponent does not have a hand so can't pay you off as opposed to ring games where one of the 20 villains that called will have a hand to pay you off.
2) You will only win when you hit. In HU it is key to win by being agressive without a made hand.
So play your draws more agressive. It ofcourse depends on the draw you have. Imagine you have 2 overcards combined with a straight and a flush draw. No harm in getting all the money in there because you usualy have a ton of outs. Also, if the board is very drawy, and you for instance only have a straight draw, your opponent might "feel" that you are drawing and will call light.
so as usualy, it depends on a lot of things, but one thing is sure, just waiting to hit is not the way to play HU
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stuckintilt
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| butitwassooted wrote: | | Quote: | | Am I thinking about this too loosely | More like too passively. Stop chasing, and start check-raising. Good things will happen. |
Ugh! I think that's one of my biggest problems. Somehow my mouse always hits fold instead of raise. I have the hardest time making plays without a made hand.
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U Cook Socks
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| stuckintilt wrote: | | butitwassooted wrote: | | Quote: | | Am I thinking about this too loosely | More like too passively. Stop chasing, and start check-raising. Good things will happen. |
Ugh! I think that's one of my biggest problems. Somehow my mouse always hits fold instead of raise. I have the hardest time making plays without a made hand. |
You are going to have a hard time beating HU, if you wait for made hands. Controlled aggression is the key.
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welshdentist
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Hi guys,
Not posted many times yet.
Is the line of thinking that if you wait to hit a flush against a tight player, as soon as you do you will not get paid, so you semi bluff raise to inflate the pot while they are ahead?
Or take the pot down anyway with their fold?
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nachtwacht
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| welshdentist wrote: |
Or take the pot down anyway with their fold? |
Thats it. Use the fold equity you have. It's heads up, people don't often have a hand. Put some pressure and they often fold. If not, you still have equity for your draws.
In here there has allready been posted a link to something Red_dog wrote about it. That will show you some calculations. The calculations tell you why it is profitable.
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