BR restart 3

doodiewiz · BR restart 3

OK I'm starting again from the 7s and i've rest my graph. I've withdrawn all of my roll apart from $200 and bought some fun stuff with my BR like a couple of antique pocket watches and an amazon kindle. Going to regrind as before. Lets see if the 7s are beatable again!

I was also on a 300 dollar downswing at the 30s and decided this would bring the fun back to poker. Regrinding and not taking it too seriously. GL everyone and hope you hit your goals!

U Cook Socks

Ha, ha, you remind me of me a bit, definitely got the potential to go higher, but happier grinding it out, with less pressure, and making a little bit of money to buy things with that you want/don't even want Very Happy

whatever.

Good luck anyway, Never seen you play, but your posts always make alot of sense, think you have a pretty decent game.

doodiewiz

Yeah just like to play for fun really and spending too much time playing poker. I started getting in bad moods when i was going on downswings as well and just thought its not worth it. I love the strategy though which is the main buzz for me...of course i will move up again and probably try and take it a couple of levels higher this time:) Might take a while though....Just got coolered big time twice and then called off a shove over an 80 chip bet with two pair on the dryest board against the biggest passive nit which was a stupid mistake. Good to go over the fundamentals again! These regrinds def make you stronger imo:)

BR: $178
ROI: -62%

doodiewiz

I need to moan. Played 66 games and out of them games i reckon/feels like i'm looking at no less then 30 coolers, suckouts...Not a great start to a new build:( Thing is i feel like i'm playing my A game most of the time, not spewing and outplaying opponents(prob only tilted in like 2 games as a result of the constant sucking)...I suppose breaking evenish isnt too bad when you run bad....I'm going to give it another 100 games and I'm moving sites - not suggesting anything at all but think i might need refreshing as in truth this has been happening for like 300 games and i'll return to pokerstars perhaps later after trying new pastures...maybe betonline or titan:)

Feels like this has become standard.

Poker Stars, $6.67 + $0.33 NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
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BB: 2,250
Hero (BTN): 750

Pre-Flop: (45) 6

9

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero calls 15, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 30

Flop: (120) Q

6

7

(2 Players)
BB bets 90, Hero calls 90

Turn: (300) 9

(2 Players)
BB bets 150, Hero raises to 600 and is All-In, BB calls 450

River: (1,500) Q

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 1,500 Pot
BB showed J

Q

and WON 1,500 (+780 NET)
Hero showed 6

9

and LOST (-735 NET)

OK no more moaning!

doodiewiz

running a little bit better now...

Games played: 98
ROI: 13%
BR: $295

I'll probably start mixing in a few 15s even though my BRs a bit small, because this is the 3rd time i've done these levels now!

Gonna reupdate this on game 400 whether on upswing on downswing....

BetMagicMoney

gogogo

Jakester1288

Don't wait another 300 games for an update, update weekly or per 100 games IMO.

doodiewiz

was going to wait but haven't been playing much...been busy working and doing christmas drinking. Just started playing 15s and they're much the same as 7s..is really fun playing up the levels again...soon as i get some more buyins for the 15s will switch to 4mans...

anyway only 140 games, BR: 385, ROI: 18%

U Cook Socks

Been playing some $7s myself, trying to build a roll again. Believe it or not they are easily 3 times softer than $5 and$10 games on Ipoker, not sure if part of that is down to the structure too, but I am finding them very easy, despite running bad, still smashing them at the moment. Happy to here the $15s aren't much harder, cos that does mean I can build a roll pretty quickly, with a bit of luck.

Looks like you are doing really well too, nice job mate.

Have to say, I agree, it's nice to play poker with no pressure, I started the $7s with a pretty thin roll, so it was quite hard at first, but seeing as I got off to a decent start, am well over 30 buyins. Prob gonna move up when I got 30 buy ins for the $15s. Poker hasn't treated me to badly again this year, paid for a holiday for us, and all the kids chrismtas presents. Not the high rolling stuff some people on here have achieved, but it's still very nice for doing something I enjoy (most of the time)

Are you playing reg speeds ? I think 20% is sustainable at the $7s for sure in the reg speeds.

doodiewiz

Been playing reg speeds, just a few turbos, 2 mans and 4 mans.

Cool you're back on pokerstars. Yeah the 7s are crazy soft. 15s touch harder, but really very very soft too. I think a 25% - 30% ROI is achievable playing 4 mans. Not that I could do it but broker showed it can done. Tiny bit harder, but 15s and 30s are easy game too imo:)

Yeah nice to play with no pressure and regrind. Gonna play a bit looser with my BR. Move up at 25, but swiftly move down again at 20. Let's hope we are both regging the 60s before too long!

U Cook Socks

Yeah, I think there is a definite jump in skill from the $30s to the $60, and probably a bigger one from the $60 to the $100 games. Still should be beatable though, just not by as much.

Anyway, am hoping to be at the $15s by christmas, and less than a month to get to the $30s, can't be sure I can do that, but I am fairly confident I can do it. I have refound my fold button, it works wonders on your ROI.

doodiewiz

Yeah Blazing must get harder and harder...if u could play decent volume at the 100s im sure you could make a lot of money if you were one of the decent players...must still get quite a lot of fish to play even there though if people don't attack you too much i guess...also would be a lot of fun to play some of the regs at that level...

Had some guy all in 7 times preflop in one match and he came back to win - all 6 times down to about 500 chips or less. I rage shoved a3os at about 900 chips at blinds 20/50 i think so not too bad and he called with 88 to finally win...lol...not running too bad so not complaining, BR - $659

doodiewiz

Getting sucked out on a bit. Well actually a lot! 7 suckouts and buyins in a row no less. Lost about 8 flips in a row whilst miles ahead in most of them and then brutally sucked out on 3 times on the turn and river when i had the guys all in on he flop. I'm running 7 buyins below EV now:) My ROI is still 16% though for the 15s so all good. Makes me think of BMM's EV graph and everyone(myself included) giving him advice, which is cool of course...I just mean maybe runbad is a combination of bad play and variance, but just imagine logging on and every other game you get raped...man i don't think people realise how brutally and for how long it is possible to run bad... though obv neither do i!

BR: Around the same $682

U Cook Socks

doodiewiz

Urgghhh that must hurt and yeah i agree Blazing. Thats exactly how it feels to me. Think poker is so much about mental attitude and discipline as well as good play. You could get some mega brainy guy who's a miles better player, but if he tilts bad when the swings hit it doesnt mean anything. Whenever I'm playing now and running B/E or bad i'm just trying to get through it waiting for the run good to give me another little upswing. Still BMMs EV line is pretty damn nasty!

Regarding mental attitude I think its so important if you are running breakeven/downswinging to really look at your game first as a matter of course to be sure its not just variance. So easy to get an ego about it or be in denail. I have many times and its when i look at my game i seem to get better again. Always checking my game lol

BetMagicMoney

yer my EV graph is awesome lol Razz

just keep at it, its hard i know but here are a few tips

1) make sure your not autopiloting, this is something that i've only just realized i do when im not 100% focused! best way to avoid it, think though every decision, exactly why your making your play compared to reads, villains frequency, the general populations, your hand in the current situation! even if you go "im raising AA pre for value" in your head it will keep you much more focused on the game your playing (the biggest winning sessions i've had are the once when i can say exactly why im making a play)

2) review your games! pretty straight forward Razz

the best time to do it is the next day before your session as your still remember reads and game flow but don't get effected by your thought process of the day before

3) find spots were your losing money! play around with HEM/PT3 and find spots were you bb/hand is negative and work out why!! after my downswing of the last couple of months i've been working on my game off the tables really hard and trying to work out things im doing wrong, a couple spots i found were calling 3bets and play limped pots OOP. maybe just check those and see how your doing.

I wish you the best mate i now how hard it is to work hard and not feeling like your getting anywhere but keep going your get there,

as an aside, played my first games in 10 days after taking a break/time to study, i went 6-0 go me Very Happy

doodiewiz

Hey thanks man! That must have been a crazy run of suckouts to get an EV graph like that though. Got to admit feel i'm crushing these stakes easily at the moment. I think its because i really feel confident at these levels(cue downswing). Before when i got to the 60 dollar games i had a big wobble and started doing all the things you mention like going on autopilot and not thinking about every hand and just playing on instinct. Like i know he'll fold if i shove in this unexpected spot lol! My biggest problem is focus or tilt. Yes reviewing games - still yet to do that one!

Yeah and Hem is great. Just started playing with a hud last couple of months and its great imo for getting reads on villians ranges. Watched a new xSCWx video today where he talks about that kind of stuff...really good!

GoGo dude and get back up to the 30/60s soon!

doodiewiz

Last update for a while. As my graph is looking nice after some Christmas rungood i thought id update. I certainly wont be able to keep this up forever. Been playing mainly 2man reg speeds and about 10% 4mans. Just started taking shots at the $30 and straight away got a -30% fish who played me 3 times and i went 2-1, so nice! Also another thing i've been doing is mostly sitting first and only playing regs for no more then 2 games. (Apart from the ones who come and instantly sit me again when i rereg in the lobby.) Just want to build my roll! Feel i'm really playing my best game at the moment, but my problem is keeping the focus going, but feel i'm getting better at this as i've been grinding longer sessions over christmas. Another thing i've been using a hud which has made a massive difference to me and I havent been running too badly. A few suckouts here and there but nothing crazy! Will check back in once/if i get to the $60 level:) Happy Christmas!

BR:$943

kolonel

doodiewiz

Cheers Kolonel will check that out. Ive heard of the guy and knew he did a bunch of vids. Sounds like it would be perfect for me because I play tilt free for long periods of time and concentrate well and then all of a sudden I go a bit batsh1t!

doodiewiz

Man, f'ing hate poker sometimes. Running 14 buyins under EV and I've tilted like a crazy man the last 100 games. Thought i had this tilt thing under control but after a comical amount of suckouts tilt rage got the better of me i spewed everywhere! Even went and played a 100 dollar game against a solid reg and somehow managed to ship it. Although tilted i have at times been playing my A game to no avail. Anyway taking a bit of time off from poker or at least only playing when i feel emotionally balanced and rational and then only going to play short sessions. I'm not sure i have the right mental attitude for poker at the moment and definitely something i need to work on...funny as a lot of the time i feel untiltable. ..i am lucky I havent blown half my roll tbh....FU Pokerstars you motherf**king scumbags!!! LOL Smile

That feels better! Anyway, i am close to moving up to the 60's...sorry for the rant Smile

BR: $1466

icemanv6

Word of advice. If you've come close to blowing half your bank and then stating you'll soon be tmoving upto the 60s does that sound like a good thing to do? Especially since you went and sat a 100 game. Imagine how much worse its going to be when your losing bigger amounts and you basically take a gamble playing out of your bankroll management.

I've never had this problem in poker, but have experienced it a few times in trading. Really id suggest you work on your discipline a lot more if your doing this now or not later, id hate to see you build up like a 5k roll and lose 2k of it or more through discipline issues.

Your No1 goal should be protecting your bankroll, and ill discipline isn't going to do that.

Just a thought, its your money so you can do what you want with it ofcourse, but I think its something to seriously consider improving your discipline, chasing losses only ends one in the longrun.

kierkegaard1

only 14 buy-ins under ev?? what a life!

doodiewiz

Hey Iceman, thankyou for taking the time to respond. Some very good advice you're giving me there. The thing is i can stay so cool and detached for long periods of time and endure the suckouts and then all of a sudden i just spazz. I really don't know why it happens. I think you're right about the buy in level and i'm going to try out what you say. At least until i've played a few more hundred games of non tilted play perhaps and prove to myself that i'm not going to suddenly going into straight jacket mode on a moments notice! I have Jareds videos which i've partly ignored till now. Going to have a look at those...:/

Kierkegaard - yes i know many have it much worse and after reading your blog i feel a bit of a ponce writing this stuff Smile

This is really just to blow off steam though. Nobody else understands what the hell i'm talking about when i go on about this stuff. I suppose this is all part of the poker training. Learning to stay tough when we have a rocky ride. More like a pea under the princesses mattress in my case Smile

kierkegaard1

it'll get worse, it always does, be prepared and work hard

doodiewiz

Ahhhh, finally some run good. Running 21 buyins below EV now, but that's cool. Also I identified some leaks in my game where i was getting it in in tough spots and refusing to fold 2 pair when i knew i was probably beat against the wrong opponents. Also sometimes im not playing my best game when i grind longer sessions, but practice is making me much better at this.

BR: $1790

Gonna wait till I hit the $2000 mark then have a serious shot at the 60s. Taking into account Icemans advice and my own habit of going off the deep end on occasion I'm not going to up move right now, but shouldn't be all that long at all really as i've got a $50 bonus about to complete. Also I'll probably play the 60s till i build up a $3500 roll before moving to 100s if/when that happens.

Also been play $7 and $15 six man sngs. So funny these games - everyone is so bad postflop as opposed to husng players i think. I've got a vpip of 38%. Have my own home brewed strat which is obviously not playing tight till the blinds go up - involved in nearly every over pot as long as i have position etc and isolate fish. Although we shall see as i'm a massive fish in these, but will gonna keep moving up levels in these as well as i hopefully move up husng levels until i can't beat them...btw kill everyone is an excellent book if you havent read it imo

GL everyone!

golden

Wow Doodiewiz you're fn crushing, well done.

icemanv6

Goodluck with the progression and keep going Smile

$2000 will be a good amount to shot take the $60s will give you like 34BIs almost, plenty. Also $3500 is plenty for the 100s for moving up to them, just keep in mind about what you said about longer sessions, don't tilt off BIs and take a break when need be, the games will still be there 15 minutes after you take your break for example.

Remember, don't let the bigger amounts worry you as you move up and lose more in monetary terms, it's all relative, it's still BI's dropped not the $ that matters, never think about making the money, but making the best decisions possible, that's the way too success and making money, but it can become the back of your mind when you move up and start making really good money - you may think you deserve it or get used to cashing out regularly and this may block you thinking about what really matters, those decisions, and not the money lost or won.

GL Smile

BetMagicMoney

wow man great results, keep it up Very Happy

as to being under EV, im curently 36BI's under EV, you just have to shrug and keep playing as there is nothing else you can do.

All the best

<3 BMM

doodiewiz

Golden - cheers mate - yeah have been. Challenge is to keep it up Smile

Iceman - yeah i think thats the hardest thing psychologically when the money amount goes up and when i move to a new level. Slowly, slowly i'm getting less sensitive to the money aspect. I mean at the moment this amount of money doesnt mean a hell of a lot to me(a month or 2s rent in London maybe), but money is money of course and more then that it's the amount of work put in to get it. I guess if i get to the 100s it will have much more of an impact from that perspective. Just keep reminding myself i'm playing a computer game with a high score and tbh it does feel like free money most of the time! And a bigger roll is better for higher levels i guess. Especially as i'm expecting the players to get a lot better and edges to decrease....

BetMagic - thats sick dude. 99 < 88. KK < 87s etc...lol...totally agree and just have to stay tuff though i guess. I'm pleased i've broken even really and then when when EV holds...weeeeeeeee Smile

chesslw

Mate brilliant work (nice shark symbol by your name btw). Though how is the action at the 60s regspeeds lol. I was playing the turbos recently and saw you waiting there for what seems like an eternalty :S

doodiewiz

Cheers mate! I see no shark symbol though. Maybe i won a game and it was there when you checked then i lost a game and it disappeared lol

Action is slow!! Maybe like 10-20 minutes i'm guessing roughly per game. I did start mixing in 4 mans to get more action, but my BR is around $2000 so i cant really loose many buyins so gonna wait till i have like 2500 and play these as well to speed up the action lol. Love reg speeds. Although i've been thinking about turbos. In regs speeds you have so much longer to get more reads etc and make big comebacks for instance if need be:) You playing the 60 turbos? How are they? Not many regs been sitting me yet so same fishy players at the moment!

chesslw

doodiewiz

Yeah i have a few regs i sit for fun. I don't even think i've got any real edge on but i sit them anyway usually when i've been on a bit of a streak and decide a decent game is in order. My favourite reg has asked me to stop sitting him lol. I agreed because it was turning into a bit of a hit and run battle. He'd sit me and decline a rematch if he won and vice versa. They were really good matches though...it can be hard to assume you have an edge vs some regs i think, because it's hard to tell if you're being exploited or outplayed sometimes imo. When i'm exploiting them i very often think they have no clue or takes them a long time to figure out why they're loosing. The same definitely happens to me as well and can take time before i've realised how they've adjusted to my strategy for instance. This seems rare though, but could be that sometimes i'm unaware of it...

I think you should plug on with the 60s turbos mate.. Looks like you're crushing and I think you're probably wrong about your hourly. I mean how do guys like Borg/Kierk etc have $20,000 months unless they move up in stakes? (Also there are probably times of the day when action is really good) I also think it's a good idea to sit the 30's, 60's at the same time or sit both the 4man and 2 man 60s at turbos and regs...sure you'll get plenty of action like that...I'll be practicing my turbo skills soon at the 15s, so i can start mixing them in at the 30/60s.... Smile

Yeah i've only played 15 games so far, so hard to tell if they're harder yet...

chesslw

Haha oops... Maybe sitting regs wasn't a great idea after all Sad

. Yesterday my stake came through very well (he ran 300$ above EV with 12% EV ROI to boot), so felt like I had spare cash- also wanted some proper games for the hh review as I have never really rematched/sat ppl I thought were better than me. Anyway my br is still the same atm because of the stake (roughly $3k)- so all in all, not too bad (still donking off 500$ doesn't feel great). Also it looks like these guys aren't too happy about me sitting them, so they may be sitting me in future :S (and yeah I've got the same- "hit and run" dynamic going with a few too).

Playing regs is definitely more fun though, but I felt that I was just outplayed against some. The main problem is I'm used to being so exploitable with my lines/betsizing in and oop, and I'm so disbalanced in many areas- fish and bad regs generally never exploited my tendencies before- so I'll need to work on that. I'll need to if I ever want to move up to higher stakes anyway.

For now- I've got to revise for an exam tomorrow Smile

doodiewiz

Good luck with the exam!

Yeah i learn't from my last BR build last time at the 30s when i was getting bored waiting for lobbies i just went and played all the regs. I had about 3/4 of them hitting and running me or just sitting me whenever they could and the abuse i got in chat was quite funny. Hurt my BR! Now i just sit and play whoever sits me, but what i usually do is single out just 1 reg who i think is pretty good or better then me and keep hitting and running him or accepting rematches if i win the first one lol(This is when i have a decent BR for that level). That way everyone else plays by the rules and i've only got 1 reg who i battle with and try and beat in the long term. Also i sometimes sit breakeven - 5% ROI guys if i see them sitting and can't be bothered to wait. Yeah it is much more fun, but expensive and i like money. Also I sometimes sit them at the 15 dollar level for fun(you see an occasional 60/100 dollar reg sitting to start his session perhaps). Interesting playing regs, because for instance if you know they know that certain boards are good to cbet and if they start check raising those boards alot you can start checking them back and betting the turn or betting the board when you have top pair etc imo. Thats how i start adjusting anyway. Also my favourite is if i float a flop and i end up at the river with a backdoor flush or two pair for example which i really shouldn't have and i should be weak i'll make a massive overbet and they will call sometimes lol. I was looking in the lobbies last night at the 60s and there are seemingly a lot of very good $100 regs playing those levels too, like Janekaaa or Waldie from husng.com for instance who i'm def staying out of the way of if possible!

Was doing well, but now breakeven so far at the 60s after 3 suckouts, QQ < KK and a terrible shove i made on a river with trips no kicker. TBH i just need to get more games which is a pain in the ass....i'm not getting much reg action though and not going to start any just yet as by sitting first i'm getting some really soft players like at the 30s! Also i love how the FPPs are racking up playing the 60s Smile

$500 dollars shouldn't be too hard to get back though its sucks. Nice one on the staking!

doodiewiz

pokerstars has doomswitched me. I'm not allowed to win at the moment:( Oh well, got it in good 5//6 times tonight, 5 suckouts later, 6 buyins down. Pretty standard at the moment. I haven't done myself any favours by playing 4 mans as i think i'm just increasing the variance at the 60s, which i seem to be running even worse in now...honestly if i ran on ev i'd be crushing at the moment...gonna stay tuff though and hope to just get some normal luck soon!!

And Hem. Only 1 man games here and i think they're incomplete on this pc but you get the picture! How do you get 4 mans to work correctly in Hem? Hmmmmm

U Cook Socks

Those kinds of runs are so standard mate, you just need to get used to it. I had a 700 + b/e stretch at the $30s.

The main thing is, even though you are running lol bad, you aren't losing a lot of money. If you tilt, or let it get to you, you can lose a lot of money. Just limit the losses, and then when you get out this shitty run, cream off the good, and you will crush again.

Nice job.

doodiewiz

Thanks for the reassurance mate. Its good to know I'm not the only one as I find it hard to understand the variance involved. Easy to tilt when this happens. Just about avoided it last night. This is by far the worst stretch I've been going through. Hard to understand how brutal the variance can be until it starts happening to you ....I will be taking a look at my game as well(may pay a coach for a leakfinder), put in more volume and hope to upswing soon Smile

Edit: 1 cool thing forgot to mention played cog dissonance twice in 4 man shootouts last night Smile

U Cook Socks

Unfortunately it can get worse than you could ever possibly imagine. I don't think I have suffered that badly with variance overall, although I have had my moments like anyone. I feel the fact I have almost always played over rolled , has helped me deal with it.

Although it is good to know about variance, finding out just how bad some really good players have run, does nothing for you imo, I wish I didn't know !

doodiewiz

OK made a quick recovery and got my BR back to £2350...haven't played much. A few 60s regs and turbos husng. Made a start on hypers, played like a 100 at the 3.50 and breaking even. Need to play a lot more and practice - look at chadders and mersennarys shallow blind videos...

Mainly been trying other formats as its more fun. Been playing 6 max mostly at 6 mans sngs and also tried some 25/50 six man cash. Early days and only 1/2 tabling 6 max sngs, but looking good so far...they are so fishy and i've been running good at these Smile

Thinking of playing 50/50 six max and husng for a while...

6 max graph:

oh and breaking even for 200 games at husngs:

YATHINNK

doodiewiz

Hey mate, no these are aren't double or nothings. Used to play those too back in the day. These have a 1st and 2nd place payout structure. 2nd place you double your buyin, 1st place you make me 3 buyins plus original so it's like winning 4 man HUSNG shootout I guess. There are a lot of regs but they are so nitty and play tight for the 1st rounds till it gets to like 50/100 so I just start raising preflop about 30%(Vpip 40% +) and they fold - it is ridiculous tbh as the common strategy is to play tight early! Also if the regs are playing tight you can just play as many pots as posiible with the fish and often double up before its 50/100. If the table is loose and full of fish I just tighten up a bit and try and play IP.. Wink

Anyway small sample size but I've started 2 to 4 tabling them at 30s so we shall see in 500 games whether all this is working. Also you can play 12 man and 18 man sngs as well at 6 max...thinking of switching to cash soon as there seems to be a lot of money there! Anyway I think there's a lot of money to be made at these 6 max sngs. The regs I SS have made some very nice profit! Sorry for the wall of text Smile

doodiewiz

nice been on a bit of a heater. BR at £2950...played a few 60s reg husngs, $7 hyper turbos, but mainly been playing 6 max and 2/3 tabling at 30s..really enjoying this format right at the moment..wondering if i should move up to the 60s on those too? (small sample but feels like ive got a good edge)...tempted to start playing 6 max cash too...

6max sng games - 50% roi wish that was sustainable lol

All Games:

Wannawin

congratulations! that be one of them graphs I dream about. impressive

doodiewiz

cheers dude...i'm kind of getting excited about maybe playing some 100s when/if BR gets to 3500/4000 - need to play more husng though, been lazy...

doodiewiz

Played drunk last night on my iphone. Was playing 7 dollars and someone asked if i was from tag. Who was that? They rivered 2 pair on me the scoundrels:)

U Cook Socks

doodiewiz

yeah me too mate. Also my play when drunk is really aggressive - 3x every button even when blinds rise and mega call station - sure member would have been happy to get at least 5 buyins off me, but luckily there's no rematch button on the iphone app Smile

fetteredchinos

doodiewiz

Haha, welcome to the forum mate! I get asked quite frequently about the tag thing and think there must be lots of lurkers here. Yeah forum is great!

Yes spewy sounds fair:) I'm a bit of a spew monster when not drunk - probably accounts for most of my downswings! You seemed pretty good...

doodiewiz

Inspired by chesslw and the lack of action at reg speed 60s and only maybe twice the action at the turbos im going to try play mainly super turbos from now on and play regs/turbos if lobbies are free. Watched Chadders vid course and a load of other super turbo videos on husng(when's chesslws vid appearing on here?).

Played 300 7s with an ROI of 4% as i was just playing for practice. Anyway moved to 15s and will probably play 300/400 of these too and if my ROI is decent i'll move to 30s. Or should i just play now as i have the BR? Obviously on a disgusting heater at the 15s so far with an 18% roi at very small sample. Tried to 3 tabling too and its pretty easy at STs i have to say... Smile

My biggest worry is can i play these tilt free!!

doodiewiz

thought i was playing super turbos, not reg speeds! Man confirmed this where all fish are! Thought i'd post this now before the epic downswing Sad

Love the way you can get so many games in so the variance matters less imo..

doodiewiz

Early days. So here's my progress so far at $15 super turbos. EV adjusted roi is 6.8% which is the only number i'm going to worry about! It's been a crazy ride so far. What i'm loving about these is there is a neverending supply of fish and your fpps rack up very fast. They're also much easier to multitable then a deep/regular speed husng...

I'm unsure when to think about moving to 30's? My game feels like its getting better every 100 games or so and i still dont use nash lol. I make best guess at <8 bbs, so i'm going to print the chart off...

Setting myself a volume goal today of 150 games... Smile

chesslw

GLGLGL!

These games are the future but as you have experienced the swings are brutal.

When are you on Skype to chat about strat etc? I haven't played much last 2 weeks (only played the last 3 days on break from coursework/study), but I would like someone to bounce ideas with (already talk with ucs a ton...)

chesslw

And 15s/30s aren't much different to the 7s imo. And at the 60s you just need to pass the rite of passage (should be pretty quick), where a reg sits you for 2-3 games to see if his edge vs you is big enough.

I'm thinking of moving up to the 100s but it's very reg infested and I'm kind of back to the fastest fingers first problem again...

A key skill in hypers is identifying your edge and whether you should rematch (ego problems too) imo. But until the 30s you can play whoever you like pretty much.

I look forward to seeing you at the 60s hypers soon Smile

doodiewiz

volume goal of 150 games completed and another day of swings but ended making some small profit. I played bad first 50 games before i took a break, watched some videos and went back to it. Here's my SS graph all 500 games with a lot of games played on iphone so so no tracking in hem. ROI 5%. I think my evroi is bit lower so far though. Man these games are simply awesome. Also been mixing in 60s turbos/regs so finished day plus 460 to get me out of a recent $900 downswing playing drunk one time, never again and rematching a supernova reg at the 60s fighting for the lobby lol...BR: $3085...

Chess i've started playing a few 30s only about 5. My plan is play 50 more 15s and get familiar with nash at those and then do a big grind session of 100 -150 games at the 30s and see how it goes. My favourite part about these so far is when you suddenly find a monster fish who rematches you for 10 games. I also made 8 buyins in about 20 minutes playing a reg on major tilt calling me an idiot and awful etc Smile

I actually quit out of pity but i may be more ruthless in the future...

GL at the 100s and the only way is up! I'll leave skype on but lets arrange a time very soon to have a chat. Maybe get UCS involved as well and we can go over some games or ideas..perhaps play some micro hypers...if we arrange a day/time i'll make sure i'm free Smile

doodiewiz

hypers are fun. Still bashing away at the 30s

graph from 15s - easy game:)

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and then this happeed at 30s:

30s are definitely just slightly harder, but in all honesty i played pretty bad in a lot of those and got coolered a lot of times. EG like getting 55 all in preflop vs 77. Loving playing these though as i think i'm getting better all the time as i have a lot to learn - at least i hope thats the case as its hard to work out if im a winner yet until i play loads more i guess. Still playing 60s regs/turbos, but may start mixing in a 100 every now and then soon - may start playing a lot more 100s turbos/regs when my roll hits 4000....GL guys!

blsmur

I'm interested in hypers might suit my impetuous style of play

so where are you learning about them from ?

doodiewiz

I bought chadders vid pack and been reading strat stuff on 2+2 a bit and just playing. The trick with these i think is to play a lot but always be on your A game. Also edges are smaller. It can be quite scary how you've suddenly lost/spewed 15 buyins! Worse to come no doubt but also you can go on enormous heaters Smile

doodiewiz

Not a bad day playing hyper turbos...man if you wonder where all the fish are they're here! Some mega fish just played me for the last 20 games lol. Ran like god but in the end he was something like 3 buy ins down and quit....made over 50 buyins at the 15s but still down at the 30s after a mega spew session a few weeks ago and lost $900 - nearly breakeven at 30s now. I'll prob make another 30-50 buyins at the 30s and move up to 60s...i have to say there is no room for tilt in these...

Anyway was going to play 150 of these hypers today but may play a few 60s turbos/regs in a bit and perhaps take a few more shots at the 100s...BR at £4100..run good guys!

BetMagicMoney

just look at your $15 Vs $30 graphs, they look like mine Razz

nice job on the hypers and your BR Smile

Kingmunkey

nice mate , good luck with the 60 shots Very Happy

doodiewiz

cheers dudes, be maybe another 800 games or so i'm guessing at 30's hypers and then jump to 60s - however long it takes to make another 30ish buyins. My game is so much stronger now then it was 2000 games ago. Think i'm going to grind regs and turbos today and may have a few shots at the 100s. Not sure if my BR is big enough to play these as competition is bound to be tougher? Probably play 2/3 and see how it goes. I guess if i keep mixing them in with 60s when my BR gets to 5000 i can play them very comfortably...any advice on BR etc??

chesslw

Lol I am/was very nitty with my BRM...

Played 30s with 3k, and 60s with 6k (obv hypers). Seems to be fine for me, but you can obviously be more aggro. just play within your comfort zone.

doodiewiz

Yeah i think being nitty in hypers is good after experiencing a 30 buyin downswing in a few hours a few weeks ago! A little bit of tilt/bad play and just bad luck and oops my BR is gone lol

doodiewiz

dudes, i wasn't going to post so soon, but i've reached a milestone:

£5000

Very Happy

Here's my cashier:

And here's my graph for all games...there's 2600 superturbos in there which doesnt make my graph as pretty as it once was but i only care about the $$ Smile

Maybe it's time to move up to the 60s hypers and i've been played a few 100s reg speeds...Run good guys!!

blsmur

WOO HOO

nice work

well done

z1s6arn

Much deserved and a big congrats!

z1 Cool

BetMagicMoney

well done man this is awesome Smile

kierkegaard1

timwebuk

Fantastic graph, well done. What was the time period for those games?

Hopefully I'll be joining you at that milestone in a few months Smile

doodiewiz

Cheers guys can't say it's been an easy journey. Not at home and I would post graph of last 2 weeks but that was an epic heater at the superturbos for me for the last 300 games or so after major swongs. Just so many buyins at the 30 HTs lol. Have to check HEM. It seems the only natural goal now is $50000...see if I can keep playing that long might loose interest or start loosing Smile

Kierk - cheers mate but bad news? How so I don't follow that stuff. Should I convert to pounds? Seems like there's some big economic stuff happening in the euro today..

Timwebuk - quite a while starting from the $7 last November..hope to see you there mate!

edit: haha read that again..it is bad news Smile

chesslw

Withdrew money before the big GBP/USD downswing Very Happy

doodiewiz

oh didnt know that i should keep an eye on that stuff i guess - thought kierk was joking. i think i'm loosing money as i type - action is so slow..been sitting in reg speeds 60s lobby for 40 mins now lol....someone, anyone please sit me! Would play a turbo but in that mood for a long match...

Edit: some reg finally sat me Smile

BetMagicMoney

well done bro Smile

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lemonfresh

doodiewiz

Cheers guys, UCS - is that what you do? Automatically transfer to GBP in case of the exchange rate?

Lemonfresh - yeah felt slow i tilted so many times on the way there. If i could just get that under control. I always go on too long and turn winning sessions in loosing ones...

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