Archive for Tagpoker Forum A friendly place for winning poker players to share their strategy to making money playing poker.          Tagpoker Forum Forum Index -> Bankroll Building (All Members) Borg7 Borg's Turbo Journey As you may or may not know, I've switched to turbos (on Full Tilt Poker) a bit more than a month ago. The format is definitely pretty swingy, but all the action in $100s and above is either in turbos or super turbos. Therefore it's much easier to achieve a much bigger hourly in turbos than in deepstacks or reg speeds. =) Can't think of anything else smart to say, so here's my graph for the past 32 days: aggsyb Ah sick it doesnt look that swingy at all to be honest , maybe I should play the turbos too.... Oh .. wait a minute...... BetMagicMoney sick graph mate whats your ROI?? also whats your hourly?? Any main differrence between stratagie in turbos compared to reg/deep speeds? or is it your just get into flips much quicker because of stack sizes? wp all the same kierkegaard1 what a life MrJayOMG GL Borg! (Poasting in epic BR thread) Borg7 BetMagicMoney wrote: sick graph mate whats your ROI?? also whats your hourly?? Any main differrence between stratagie in turbos compared to reg/deep speeds? or is it your just get into flips much quicker because of stack sizes? wp all the same 9.3% ROI, 100 bucks per hour ;P Generally speaking the gameflow in turbos usually developes in a much different way compared to deeps. The main difference between turbos and deeps is that you're confronted with endgame so much quicker in turbos and fine tuning your endgame will become sooo important. JamEaze What about 3bet dynamics - are they quite important at the turbo's (im guessing a lot of opponents are aggressive)? Do you have to loosen your ranges a lot or not by much? Sick hourly btw!! U Cook Socks You sick , sick man ! Nice going. Borg7 JamEaze wrote: What about 3bet dynamics - are they quite important at the turbo's (im guessing a lot of opponents are aggressive)? Do you have to loosen your ranges a lot or not by much? Sick hourly btw!! 3bet dynamics in turbos are completely overrated. =P It only really plays a role worth mentioning when you play other regs. ottocat01 Borg, Those swings look brutal. How do you stay positive after losing 2 games in a row? Are you mentally prepared to have under 20% ROI? Just kidding man, I think it's hilarious that you championed Deepstacks for all that time then go and slaughter turbos. Well Done! James Brokerstar It's epic how you've evolved as a player so fast. Really gives everyone something to look up to. So many of you have come up together from the micros and now smash up the high stakes or MTT's etc it's just sick! Keep crushing my man.   Borg7 Little update Soo, I played like ~15 games today and I'm up +$302 before rakeback. Didn't hit my volume target and I don't have a good excuse for it. =P Not very pleased with that, but I'll make up for it tomorrow. Edit: Oh yeah, ROI increased to 10% fwiw.   BetMagicMoney sick ROI are you playing full time now??? Borg7 BetMagicMoney wrote: sick ROI are you playing full time now??? Tyty. =) I still go to school, lol. tmle09 dude you are sickkkk...keep it up i been playing the turbo the past few weeks too erdjan Nice graph! Mine looks a little more swingy since i switched to turbos hehe ubooter Hi Borg, Are you playing the small ball strategy introduced by Brokestars in your turbo games? Or maybe you have developed your own style of playing? Borg7 ubooter wrote: Hi Borg, Are you playing the small ball strategy introduced by Brokestars in your turbo games? Or maybe you have developed your own style of playing? I play my own style. My postflop concepts are more or less equal to the ones that Brokerstar taught me a year ago though. Borg7 Played little volume in the past few days because I was either hungover/drunk or had to study. ;P I did manage to get in a few games though and overall I'm happy with my volume in January, so I'm just gonna take it pretty easy in the end. 11% ROI U Cook Socks Borg7 wrote: Played little volume in the past few days because I was either hungover/drunk or had to study. ;P I did manage to get in a few games though and overall I'm happy with my volume in January, so I'm just gonna take it pretty easy in the end. 11% ROI mmm, if I had made over 7k for the month, I think I may relax a little   Nice going, great to see you doing so well. z1s6arn WHAT A LEGEND! icemanv6 Great work mate. Have you dropped any more orange in people's shoes of late? Borg7 Stats before rakeback: Think I'm up about $500 today. Gonna play the weekly $20k Turbo HU in an hour. golden Borg7 wrote: Stats before rakeback: Think I'm up about $500 today. Gonna play the weekly $20k Turbo HU in an hour. amazing results. Where did you get the chart from, what program is it? I would love to get my hourly rate. Borg7 It's Holdem Manager. ;D golden did you pay for it or complete one of their promotion offers? Borg7 Paid for it. kierkegaard1 balla' Wannawin dribble tmle09 beast hourly man what stakes do you play? hjbear hey borg what would you say the main thing to work on when transistioning from regs to turbos? Borg7 tmle09 wrote: beast hourly man what stakes do you play? Thanks! I play $110s-$220s and occasionally $360 shootouts. Borg7 hjbear wrote: hey borg what would you say the main thing to work on when transistioning from regs to turbos? End-game BetMagicMoney Borg7 wrote: hjbear wrote: hey borg what would you say the main thing to work on when transistioning from regs to turbos? End-game do you use ROFL for end game or a similear idea? hjbear as in when to shove and 3bet? Borg7 BetMagicMoney wrote: Borg7 wrote: hjbear wrote: hey borg what would you say the main thing to work on when transistioning from regs to turbos? End-game do you use ROFL for end game or a similear idea? What's ROFL?   Borg7 hjbear wrote: as in when to shove and 3bet? As in when to limp/minraise/shove or 3bet. BetMagicMoney Borg7 wrote: BetMagicMoney wrote: Borg7 wrote: hjbear wrote: hey borg what would you say the main thing to work on when transistioning from regs to turbos? End-game do you use ROFL for end game or a similear idea? What's ROFL?   lol ok obviously not its an end game stat developped by mecensarrie, stands for (min)Raise/Open shove/Fold/Limp i only ask because you said end game was so improtant i'd be intrested on how you approach it Borg7 Gonna call it a month and take the last day of January off. ;D @BMM: If "ROFL" is from mersenneary, then I'm sure it's good because he's a beast in endgame. It's hard to generalize how I approach endgame because it's still very villain dependent. I'll try to make a video soon where I give my thought processes on specifically endgame. hjbear hey bmm could you post a link about rofl? please. and borg could you link anything that helps with turbos pretty please? i like playing faster games so want to just play turbos Simba Wow, such a nice graph and all in a month or so . Maybe a $100k year ? Suspira Borg 10k months you blow my mind fella   Well done Borg7 Having a pretty rough day today (-$200 as of now). Was down like 1k at one point. Playing well tho, so I'm super happy with today. I also studied for school for 2 hours...very pleased with that lol. Borg7 Brief update: I've been sick over the past few days (and I still am) which is why I'm unable to play any poker. I just played very few games and won like $200 over the past like week or so. z1s6arn My total winnings in 3 months is less than that! ;( BetMagicMoney z1s6arn wrote: My total winnings in 3 months is less than that! ;( ^^This dzikijohnny Need some serious advice.  I switched to deep stack on ftp and am finally doing well (ok small sample but, good numbers) and have quickly moved from $5s to now $20s.  Problem is the action seems to just be terrible above $20s and not very good at $20s.  Do you think switching to PS and doing the regulars is the way I should go? U Cook Socks dzikijohnny wrote: Need some serious advice.  I switched to deep stack on ftp and am finally doing well (ok small sample but, good numbers) and have quickly moved from $5s to now $20s.  Problem is the action seems to just be terrible above $20s and not very good at $20s.  Do you think switching to PS and doing the regulars is the way I should go? If you want actions, play the turbos on Stars. The structure on the reg speeds on Stars is pretty good, as in a slow one, but the game dynamics are always going to be different to deepstack games. Also, the reg speeds on Full Tilt, above the $10s are much softer than on Stars imo. z1s6arn This is seriosuly not cool news about the deepstacks volume. I really enjoy the deepstacks and got the impression borgs win rate and massive success over that 700 games was down to deepstack play which reduces the variance. Borg what is your oppinion on this? I only need 10-15 games per day anyway, but if you cant get above 10 games of fishes then what about moving over to HU cash. My hope was to be able to grind $50 deepstacks on a regular basis. U Cook Socks z1s6arn wrote: This is seriosuly not cool news about the deepstacks volume. I really enjoy the deepstacks and got the impression borgs win rate and massive success over that 700 games was down to deepstack play which reduces the variance. Borg what is your oppinion on this? I only need 10-15 games per day anyway, but if you cant get above 10 games of fishes then what about moving over to HU cash. My hope was to be able to grind $50 deepstacks on a regular basis. If you play 6-8 hours a day, you might get 15 in if your lucky. Also depends what time of day you play. If you play day time UK time, it is much slower than after like 11pm uk time. *edit* Borgs massive winrate, is down to him being one of the best, if not the best player on this site. icemanv6 Yes deepstacks reduced the variance, but it still means you have to play good. Anything over 20/30s and expect the action to be really slow, only reason I sit them is so I can sit a reg+deep lobby at the same time, and I don't mind either format, especially up at the higher stake's the action is really slow, so i'm starting to sit a few of the poorer regs (and there is a few who shouldn't even be at the 50s trust me!) to get more game's in. dzikijohnny Sorry for derailing the thread I moved everything about deep stacks to a new one here..... http://tagpoker.myfastforum.org/sutra22374.php#22374 Borg7 As previously stated, until I'm finished with school (2 months away), I won't be playing that much because I gotta study for my final exams. Nonetheless, I have played a bit... This is my updated graph: And my stats: I've tried playing higher stakes ($200s-$360s) recently to compensate my low volume and I've done pretty well.  Hourly and ROI increased alexfrans What a great result. Is this one month of playing?? Keep up the good work, hope one day i'll join you. BetMagicMoney your a beast - no lie U Cook Socks I'd give my left nadger for a poker brain like Borgs. z1s6arn And I would give my nadger! Borg7 Had a solid day: FunkMastah If you call 1k/day solid then it is   you are sick dude, way to go! and when you + the money people are paying you to be their friend it will come like 2k day, right?   Borg7 Rawr Borg7 Goal for 2011/2012: Wanna buy this car: BetMagicMoney OMGOMGOMG i shotgun for when you first get it golden how much is that like 80-100 k? it's sexxed kierkegaard1 honestly. just to spend one day in borg's shoes.. what a charmed life you lead... icemanv6 haha Borg7 40 games later... Brokerstar I actually think this may happen!   kierkegaard1 Borg has never had a losing day. WAL! BetMagicMoney no money HU borg has it all........no seriously have you seen that graph Sorry_Mate Don't get an R8, get a Noble. Borg7 Had a bit of a downer/breakeven-stretch recently but it's fine cause I think I've been playing my A game all the time. ROI 12.7% welshdentist Heroic.... You the man dude BetMagicMoney you can't run hot forever Nishido Epic brb thread is epic!! Run good!! Reseal Man your sick as hell! kierkegaard1 Incred life. I need to step up my game stuckintilt Wow. From games 300-600 you double up, then have an interesting 100 games only to double up again from 700-900. I cant wait to see your graph once you have another 1000 games or so. Go Borg! Borg7 Thanks for the kind words! Booked another nice +$500 day with z1s6arn sweating all games ROI climbed to 13%. z1s6arn Brilliant to see Borg reading the news when one tabling a $220 turbo because....quote ' I get bored just playing one table" and while scanning his exam notes to pass the time between games! Legend and thankyou for your time mate. Learned alot! z1 ChrisB I love this thread, I remember about a year ago when I visited TagPoker and there was borg...the little $5 grinder who seemed to be doing alright...and look at you now!! Gratz on the development mate, maybe one day you can teach me a thing or two BetMagicMoney standard Wannawin pfff  I get a downswing my graph goes vertical, Vorsprung durch Begabung (?) gets a downswing and stays bloody horizontal Borg7 Didn't play very much but still had a nice couple of days: Overall graph now: BetMagicMoney hahaha, your such a beast, i can't wait to be doing this nh sir Brokerstar Just seems like yesterday that a small group of us were sweating you in $5 games!!   Ah they grow so fast. lol icemanv6 Borg, stop stealing all my run good Nishido All of your biological and technological run good will be added to his own... Borg7 BetMagicMoney wrote: hahaha, your such a beast, i can't wait to be doing this nh sir Ty, I can't wait either. Brokerstar wrote: Just seems like yesterday that a small group of us were sweating you in $5 games!!   Ah they grow so fast. lol Lol, I agree...good times when Tagpoker had like 12 members and you staked me $75 to play the $5s lol. icemanv6 wrote: Borg, stop stealing all my run good Nishido wrote: All of your biological and technological run good will be added to his own... +1.5k today....ROI 14.8% now. U Cook Socks Borg, you truly are an inspiration to everyone on this site. A great bloke too, you deserve everything you are getting. Hope you continue to smash them up for a very long time. rekop I second Blazing saddler's sentiment above - you are a true inspiration to all of us here! Keep rolling my man!   Borg7 Very, very long time no update...time to change that! Been on a pretty big BE-stretch/downswing for a while on FTP. My ROI dropped to 9.x% in turbos, but it's super hard  to maintain a ROI larger than 10% in turbos in the long run anyway I think. So, these are my recent stats for FTP: However, I have switched to a Euro-Site as a reaction to the action dying on FTP after Black Friday. I'm loving the site...action is much better than it was on FTP even before Black Friday. The field is extraordinarily soft too, it's quite incredible. Averaging about 20 games a day (85% turbos) and this is how I've done there so far: Took a shot at a 500€ HUSNG against a huge fish and I won it by a flip. Weeeeeeee. Oh and for those interested, I finished (pretty much) all of my exams and basically have 6 months off until I go to a university in October. z1s6arn OMG! 4K IN <200 GAMES! OMG! Well done on sorting your exams out. Most ppl in your position would have sacked off school last year! Although tthere arent that many ppl in your position though are there? =) BetMagicMoney nice to hear you have finished school now get on skype you have been hiding from me lol sick BE stretch but your a beast at any rate lol, winning flips is also fun hope to talk soon GL at the tables (like you need it) <3 BMM P.S. is it worth me moving sites? as the action is low on PokerStars/reg infested (i know which site your on coz im awsome so no need to say) ty x doodiewiz I've seen a few episodes of miss marple so it took me 5 mins to find out:) Traffic on FT seems to be pretty good lately 50, 70 thousand when i log on, but no need i dont think at my stakes(20s now) to go switching. There's lots of regs though. I thought this would start happening higher at say the 50s...Awesome stats mate! pingu130 Been away a while myself due to studies and travelling. Just wanted to jump on the BorgWagon and say that you're actually sick. Well played mate, continue being awesome. U Cook Socks BetMagicMoney wrote: nice to hear you have finished school now get on skype you have been hiding from me lol sick BE stretch but your a beast at any rate lol, winning flips is also fun hope to talk soon GL at the tables (like you need it) <3 BMM P.S. is it worth me moving sites? as the action is low on PokerStars/reg infested (i know which site your on coz im awsome so no need to say) ty x Turbos are still running fine. Borg7 z1s6arn wrote: OMG! 4K IN <200 GAMES! OMG! Well done on sorting your exams out. Most ppl in your position would have sacked off school last year! Although tthere arent that many ppl in your position though are there? =) Heh ty buddy, I'm happy I finally got school out of the way lol. BetMagicMoney wrote: nice to hear you have finished school now get on skype you have been hiding from me lol sick BE stretch but your a beast at any rate lol, winning flips is also fun hope to talk soon GL at the tables (like you need it) <3 BMM P.S. is it worth me moving sites? as the action is low on PokerStars/reg infested (i know which site your on coz im awsome so no need to say) ty x Thanks for the kind words.  I guess we already talked abou tthe switching site thing on Skype, so I won't write it again here ;D doodiewiz wrote: I've seen a few episodes of miss marple so it took me 5 mins to find out:) Traffic on FT seems to be pretty good lately 50, 70 thousand when i log on, but no need i dont think at my stakes(20s now) to go switching. There's lots of regs though. I thought this would start happening higher at say the 50s...Awesome stats mate! Nice work, detective. Yeah, action on FTP is still OK, especially in lower stakes. pingu130 wrote: Been away a while myself due to studies and travelling. Just wanted to jump on the BorgWagon and say that you're actually sick. Well played mate, continue being awesome. Thanks, pingu!   Blazing_Saddler wrote: Turbos are still running fine. True story. Borg7 Should we on the leaderboard as soon as it refreshes! Weeeeeeee! =] Borg7 Updated stats/graph: golden which euro sire are you playing on? or is poker stars France considered euro lol        Tagpoker Forum Forum Index -> Bankroll Building (All Members) Page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2