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| z1s6arn |
AdaptnEvolve: $50-$500[X]_$500-$5k[X]Adapt n Evolve_The next phaseYesterday Broker & Borg gave the go ahead to stake me at the $20s. So thank you both for giving me this chance. I joined tagpoker as an absolute novice. Maybe three weeks under my belt. When I started researching poker I looked up on every article I could find. Especially about gambling, addiction, luck over skill etc etc. I didn't even know what poker was except it involved cards. Hahha. Looking back I can imagine what my mother would do if she saw me wiring my first poker deposit onto an online gambling network! Good job she still dosen't know! 
I started on the 9 man SNG's. Found a really helpful beginners pdf and slowly but surely I started winning. It proved that if you learn theory and apply it and learn from your mistakes, yes indeed poker could be profitable. The question was...how profitable? I realised that having to grind 4-12 9 man SNGs felt a little too robotic. I also realised there was a huge edge missing when I was in the final three and kept missing first place which where the real profits where. I had no idea what to do. So I stumbled across the heads up format. It was so much more enjoyable, involved and complicated. You guys no what I mean! Then I found TAG poker and looked at those graphs! And boy are those graph seductive beauties! I saw a path that with time and patience could be emulated and decided to join TAG poker on the 4th Nov 2010. Excited took Brokers course and the HU journey began. I had no idea how much time and personal development it would take to get to this point. Its taken four months to finally find my stride in the deepstacks. Now I find myself here, unbelievably writing this introductory post and being staked!!Wow!!! SO....Down to business. This is where I left off: 
MARCH TARGETS: 1) Play $20s for this month_Volume: 270 games & ROI:>10% 2) Weekly Leakfinders 3) Develop warm up routine Current BR: +$807.13 [Inc stake] For New Tagpoker members who are thinking about coaching Brokers coaching reviews:http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com...t-share-paid-free-options-695440/ Final Note My final thankyous to Borg & Broker, top blokes who love rippin it out of each other! Very funny guys! Thanks to BetMagic for being the best forum moderator we have ever seen and a well done to his recent success! Thankyou to Blazing for an amazing motivational post when I was really struggling! kierkegaard1, Aggsyb, icemanv6, redog are all awesome inspirations and I hope that one day I may attain a little of the magic you guys have! And finally good luck to hjbear, kantor, two2go, Jameaze, rubenfox, golden, YATHINNK, forced, bridgerunner and FunkMastah who I have been following over all these months! Take care all and to the rest of the tagpoker team! Adapt n Evolve |
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| The Little Fish |
Congrats mate.
I'm fairly new to teh site so you wont know me but well done so far. I wish you all the best for the 20's. Hope you crush it! Will be following!! 
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| Brokerstar |
Well done again my man.
Now all we need is a picture of you to hand next to the former members so send me a picture. 
Tagpoker Top Team Members Broker |
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| U Cook Socks |
Congratulations. Nice work there. Never give up on anything you want in life, you can get it if you really want it.
If you need any help, or if you are struggling and just need a cheer up chat anytime, just let me know. Make the most of the opportunity, and your mentors, you couldn't ask for two better mentors, just look at their records, speak for themselves. Both just happen to be really nice people too, bonus Go forth, and crush |
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| FunkMastah |
Great work man!
Now go and crush the 20's! |
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| z1s6arn |
Oh my......this is a very different world! Now I really respect you guys! | ||
| Brokerstar |
Send me a message if you're having a bumpy start and we'll get together tomororw and look over one of the games you lost to see if there is anything jumping out and saying 'fix me'.
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| forced |
right on! good stuff! | ||
| BetMagicMoney |
Congrats mate really well done 
BMM |
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| YATHINNK |
You playing the 20 deeps? | ||
| z1s6arn |
Yup!Deepstack indeed!
Where are the fishes??? If I get a fish he still gives me a run for my money at the $20s! |
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| tmle09 |
congrats
good man |
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| hjbear |
one of my fav people on here! keep on crushin! | ||
| YATHINNK |
Haha, its a lot tougher when you get past the 10s. Well, it ain't tough just different. | ||
| rubenfox |
congrats with the stake,
hope you will crush the higher stakes like you did with the micros |
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| bridgegunner |
good work z1 u are a true professional. i know u will crush the 20s and up. u have the 2 best coaches out there and stick with them and u will do well. stick to your routine and work on your game everyday the best players are the ones who work the hardest. please skype me if u need anything. a chat a sweat a hh review anything. i am always here.
gl and keep em crushing |
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| z1s6arn |
So far the $20s are almost the same as $10s. I think I'm breaking even because I'm playing my B/C game in spots + bad variance which cause me to come across more bad variance. I think poor play encourages these dangerous spots. When you play badly you lose control and you become needy and that neediness creates foolish decisions. You almost become a desperate puppet....
Anyway......something I learned I love how when the game is high blinds, someone has top pair (barrels hard) the other has middle/bottom per and he spikes 2 pair on the turn and the guy with the top pair will always call off a shove because of his initial strong hand mental state and investment and the high blinds puts both of you under pressure which is where crucial mistakes happen. It happened to me and two games later I was on the 2 pair side and knew that he would call off over 2000 chips). He did and he knew I had it but subconsciously it was just easier for him to press the call button and pray. I did the eact same thing as that 2 games before hand. Very profitable situation which is why I like to call a biggish barrel in high blinds to spike the 2 pair or trips. Works flipping wonders! I need to sharpen up my game theory (I feel like I'm playing of instinct and have forgotten specific ideas from the course). I feel as though I'm playing out of shape and have stopped learning theory even though technically I'm learning quite alot of game experience...like knowing how to extract the maximum amount of chips for a monster which is massively dependent on player type. This is kindergarten stuff, I know but the low stakes virtually 7/10 will call my shoves now its like 3/10. So I'm trying to figure out how to extract the most value without them flipping folding! Emotions are slowing me down and I have to keep taking breaks to cool down. I either play tilted to meet volume goals and fight through it or stop and limit my losses. Hmmmm? Tilt monkey mode did not get me this far. Easy decision.... Deep down I know this is achievable which is a nice gut instinct to have. So far I'm break even over 40 games. I'm sat in my bed right now sooo angry. I'm like a frumpy little boy. I know its literally suicide to carry on because I cannot for sure pinpoint the cause of my losses and so there would be no plan to adapt and adjust my style if I where to return to the game. So for safe measure I'm going to limit my potential losses, rest, read up on all my notes and really try to remember them and try again tomorrow! Crazy how meaning full a game of cards can get when the stakes increase another notch. When my BR is over 1200 I wont give a monkies about losing a few here and there, its just so happens I'm being staked and watched and I'm at a level thats the highest I've ever played. You all know how it feels to move up a level! Hats off to YATHHINKs recent jumps! And I know I will have to go through it all over again at the $30s and $50s and whatever happens to be next........ Great advice below from kierkegaard1 to Blazing and passed down from Blazing to myself a few months back: Very very sound logic: I would recommend you always think of this when the moment arises!
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| forced |
i see alot of my own faults in kierks writings...
nice post |
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| YATHINNK |
Just gotta keep going. I see that you battered the lower levels so, although you probably didn't consciously think it, somewhere in your mind you went into the game full of confidence and become disheartened when it was tougher than you might have expected.
Poker's hard sometimes, no matter what stakes you're at. Just make sure you're always making the best moves and you'll be fine, if there's a spot where you think it might be a bit marginal then don't take it. You always have an edge on a lot of these guys and it's way easier to beat them when you have a bigger stack. |
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| Brokerstar |
Hopefully there is a ton in the leakfinder video that I put up for you to help you regain your 'A' game.
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| z1s6arn |
Current stats:
Overview: Started off a little like a lamb to the wolves. With time I managed to slowly find my feet and regain some composure to finish with a winning week. I'm very pleased with how the week turned out and I'm very greatful for all the positive comments. Looking foward to implementing Brokers feedback next week. Points that need to work on: The new bet sizing lecture was really important in clearing up some really serious fundamental concepts that were really hazy and it showed in my leak finder. I hope this video becomes an essential part of the package as it has been exceptionally useful to me and has given me much more confidence in my decision making process. Review and comment on my leakfinder this week. Maintain a steady rhythm that's sustainable yet still pushing myself. Im not setting strict volume goals anymore because if I miss them I feel like I've failed, so instead I just play as many games as I can productively for that week knowing in the back of my mind I need to be able to maintain that output week in week out. I noticed at the higher stakes waiting times reduce the amount of games you can play and the increase in skill level tires you out much more quickly than playing super fish at the micro stakes. So I have to build up another level endurance from the mid stakes and recovering from tilt (which your more prone to at higher buy in levels) which can be quite time consuming over a week. 2-3hrs here and there really adds up...All I can offer is that I will try and play as many games as realistically possible without throwing away buy ins from fatigue. Bankroll: Starting BR: +$574.13 BR inc stake:+$774.13 Coaching profit wk1: +$103.63/2 = +$51.82 submitted to Borg 08/03/2011 New BR: +$825.94 p.s I swear SS did not log a couple of games, hence my profit calculations differ from SS p.p.s played a pretty aggressive game vs a very competetent reg...he sucked out on me prev game when I had him down to 2000 chips with A9 vs my AK, next match karma was restored when I 4 Bet him with 87s and he shoved with AK. I hit trips. Suck out I know. Bad play I know. Positives I got some revenge and now he knows I too can say enough is enough Doctor machete!!! woop woop...note to self give little drmachete some respect when he 3 bets you big in high blinds!
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| U Cook Socks |
Looks like you are over your initial worries now right ? So a big well done.
Bit of advice, if you want to listen. I would just withdraw your roll completely, and withdraw your profit each week/month whatever you prefer. The whole point of being staked is, you don't have to use your own money. I used to do the same as you, until towards the end. It's a real nice feeling putting real money in your bank account. Save it for poker by all means. I did. It will work out better for you though I think personally. Your choice though. Don't worry to much about not having many buy ins. I can't really speak on their behalf, but I am pretty sure Borg wont have any problems reloading you, providing you are listening to what they both tell you. Look forward to hearing your next update. |
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| z1s6arn |
I pissed myself at the above comment!!! Top team perks = Infinite supply of money from Borg!!!
Right serious reply now.... I was thinking of doing that but wasnt sure if it was a good idea or not. I remember Borg may have done the same thing when he started. To be honest it sounds like a much better idea to withdraw my roll and withdraw my profits into a real bank account. Hmmm I shall mull over that over a cuppa tea! Thankyou! |
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| U Cook Socks |
Well the way to look at it is this, I never quite got it in to my head, but you should. They obviously have faith in you and your ability, or they wouldn't be backing you.
I am sure Broker and Borg have enough experience playing poker to know downswings happen. Just keep applying what they tell you, and you wont go far wrong. |
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| BetMagicMoney |
haha that was awsome
well done dude im sure you'll crush it
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| Brokerstar |
Ah ha.
Slightly sketchy start but nice turn around, hence why I wanted to get a game review in nice and early for you. Just send me a message and we'll book your next session in. We can either go through a game together or you can send me a HH file and I'll make you another video, it's up to you. Speak to you soon. Broker |
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| FunkMastah |
nice to see you doing great and will do even greater when you get yourself comfortable crushing those games.
Well done mate! |
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| z1s6arn |
I just donked off my entire weeks profit...i.e $40
Thought I could go out socialize and come back and play 2/3 games before I went to bed. Played and lost one. Then played another and easily lost it. I watched myself mid game and I just didnt care, I feel sick rereading this sentence. Feel tired and drowsy and now I'm going to bed on a downer because Ive just watched myself do this. No fight, no strategy, no thoughts nothing. Just limp dick play. What an amazing lesson that I should have known already. It was too late and you should always look inside and think are you alert and well enough to play at your best. If not leave it until your well rested. If I had have gone to bed I would have woken up with those 2 buy ins ready in my account. Now I have to work extra hard maybe 2-6 games to earn the 2 buyins again. Lesson learned! |
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| z1s6arn |
Current stats week 2:
N.b SS is not logging all my games. Maybe 20% lost. 
Overview and points to work on: I'm beginning to see repetition in player type. I've notice I was repeating the same mistakes over and over again. At high blinds I'm shoving to raises with low pocket pairs or ace rag and thats getting me into trouble. The thing is I do this after spending half an hour crawling back from 1500 chips after hero calling at the start of the game. I'm also raising preflop at high blinds and Cbetting on bad board textures with air which is costing a huge percentage of my stack. The final thing is I was being a hero caller. Another huge dip on the graph is the result of not having a fold button. It has lost me 6-8 buy ins and this was against total losing worse than -10% fish. Jesus! Usually when they bet pot and I have a middle pair with gut shots etc and call 3 streets. Hmmmm. Once I stopped doing this after friday my profits went up considerably.Today has been a $90 day. So...Stop curiosity calling and make bets smaller to get value when they are quite tight and tread slightly more careful at high blinds. Bankroll: I've withdrawn my personal bankroll as a trial under Blazzing suggestion. I'm going to see how it goes as there is a side to me that likes seeing my bankroll growing and comparing with every one else on the site becasue it provides a huge degree of motivation. So... Starting BR: +$200 Week 2 BR: +$301.94 Coaching profit wk2: +$50.97 submitted to Borg 15/03/2011 |
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| U Cook Socks |
mmm, that might be something to go over with Broker. I don't want you to take it to litterally, and think you should always do it, but 3bet shoving small to medium pocket pairs, when the effective stacks are around 20-25 deep, is highly profitable against a player who is raising a lot of buttons. Maybe you just had a spell of running in to the top of villains ranges, or whatever, but I wouldn't just disgard it, without some though about the play on the whole. Pocket Pairs are gold dust when the blinds go up. Remember the effective stack size is the thing you are looking at really, not so much what blind level you are at. Although obviously as they get higher, the effective stacks are shorter. If a player raises his first button for a bout 30 hands, then folding 44 might be the best option, but if he is raising 70% of buttons, it's pretty standard to shove I think. What ever you do, don't go flatting with low pockets when the effective stacks get shallow, shove or fold only. |
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| z1s6arn |
Brilliant example is against a tight player post flop whos aggression pre is going up. I have 4000 chips he has 2000 chips. Blinds 150/300. He raises 900 I dont think hes strong. I shove pocket 22's into his J9s he hits a J. IS this retardism? Oh his rises freqency was increasing to 50%.
Same type of thing with A2-A6....? |
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| U Cook Socks |
Lol@ him 3xing 6.5BB deep, that is retardism. If he is super tight, then maybe you can find a fold, as he is never folding there, so you have no fold equity, but mmm, I dunno, I still think I shove. I mean by that stage of the match, you should have some idea of his raising range from the button, then you can simply go away and pokerstove it, and see if it's profitable or not. I presume you are playing shove fold by this time of the game right ? Anyone who is 3xing at that stage of the game, is just a pot of money, waiting to be stolen. |
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| z1s6arn |
Shove fold hmmm, no more min raise stab still with me shoving here and there. | ||
| U Cook Socks |
Right, I want you to go and talk to Broker about this. I don't want to give you bad advise, and have him not to happy with me for costing him a bunch of money
If the other guy has 2000 chips, and the blinds are 150/300 that is less than 7 BB deep. I don't think you should be minraising at that point, unless the guy is either (A) Folding a lot of his BB to the min raise, or (B) Calling and check/folding often. Borg or Dom, will definitely help you tighten this part of the game up with you, I am sure. |
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| z1s6arn |
Yes....Bit of a lost puppy there.... | ||
| U Cook Socks |
Don't get worrying about it, I wasn't trying to make you look silly or anything, just trying to help. You are a winning player, so thats a great start. Do you understand how effective stacks work ? If not I have a few good videos that will help you out. Add me on Skype blazing_saddler, and I will send them over to you |
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| ChrisB |
Yeah, small to mid pocket pairs play very well in latter stages against a guy who opens many buttons.
Can I add you aswell Blazing? |
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| U Cook Socks |
Of course
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| z1s6arn |
If anybody is experiencing negative variance this may help you feel better
This is how I started week 3. Still got another 2/3hrs to go. 55 vs 22 Lost to set [ALL IN PRE] 88 vs A8o Lost to A [ALL IN PRE] A9o vs JJ Lost no hit [ALL IN PRE] K3s on Flush board lost to AQ he hits the flush nut on river with four cards for clubs after calling massive raises when I had K high flush on flop KK vs AQo Lost to villain hitting A [ALL IN PRE] Hit a straight on flop when short stacked and he had the same 8 and a 9. Hit top pair J with A kicker he had KK it went all in............ I dont know whether to laugh or cry...................... |
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| U Cook Socks |
You can't really count A10 v JJ , you were an underdog
I'd turn off the computer, laugh, and come back tomorrow. (Actually I'd probably cry, but I recommend laughing as a better option) |
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| z1s6arn |
Laughing!
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| z1s6arn |
Winning player = no tilt and then I won the next 6. Woot woot! We are in the positive!!! And yay we are now running at 10% ROI for the $20s.
The negative variance just flipped on its head + spewy fish! |
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| z1s6arn |
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| z1s6arn |
Current Stats:
Overview: This week the players seem to be mediocre. Have had some strange variance. One thing that I have noticed is my lack of sharpness. After re-reading my last two posts, they keep saying how I've spewed off buy ins to total fish through poor play?? I have been grinding the BR since mid January from $100. Got through the $2's then the $5s and a quick pit stop at the $10s which was a huge hurdle in itself. Now I have taken the challenge of jumping into the $20s which to be honest is not as hard as one would expect except when your running on a dead battery. I can look at it two ways.... Do I carry on to the end of the month getting up tired every day trying constantly to do everything in my power to maintain focus and excitement or do I take a break that should have been taken when I hit the $500 mark. Subconsciously my mind has been going on and on and on at taking a rest. I've just sat down tonight on FT after sleeping 12hrs and got smashed on the 9th hand when I had a straight on a TTQK board with J9 and the villain had AJ. What should happen is you laugh and get motivated to crush the next match, but what actually happened was this heavy feeling of defeatism and self pity which means something aint right. Just look at the graph. Its up and down and down. Thats tiredness and then getting adrenaline to pull it back up....? Ive just watched two very talented and committed players blow 90% of their bankroll and another player almost quit, probably due to tiredness. This sh*t really happens to people! When I'm doing an architecture project you can be working 16 hr days for weeks and then suddenly you blow and it takes 4 solid days of NOTHING in front of a TV to get the last 4 weeks out of you and you know 4 days was never enough. Its so important to be able to listen to what your body is telling you and then act on it. I've never really experienced this with poker because I'm new but its very similar to architecture with regards to energy consumption leaving you lethargic and unproductive, instinct is telling me to listen to my own advice written to rubenfox's BR thread and go totally cold turkey, otherwise this is going to end in tears, especially since I've just been given such an incredible opportunity from Borg and Broker. I mean if this is going to be a real long term career for me, if I cant do this now what is going to happen when I'm playing with much bigger buy ins where being one buy in up could be a whole days work?? This is the reason you grind from the bottom so you have already learned these lessons as a practice run for when you reach the higher stakes...right?? So.....the risk is time and the reward is firing on all cylinders after a good rest. Even when I was a competitive athlete I never used to take enough time resting which probably was the single most determining factor that caused me to over train and fall ill for 18 months after I peaked at 17. By the way it took a further two years to be able to train hard again...all because I would not listen to my body. I've seen so many people, especially myself who never seem to ever learn from this mistake. Its so counter intuitive but taking time off can actually be more productive than training. We all know this but do we honestly do it?!? The Plan: Been in the top team for less than three weeks. I've managed a ROI of 8% and pushed through some pretty big dips. I'm pleased but by no means impressed. I've learned soo much off just one leakfinder alone...there is no way I'm going to blow this by making a fatal mistake as simple as this. Its important to get enough rest, not just half a week, because it would be god awful to take a rest and then come back and in two weeks time your back to square one. So I'm hoping 12 days is long enough to ensure a proper recovery which by the way I don't really want to take off all this time! I'll come back on the first of April... go over notes and play slowly for a few days and then I'll turn up the heat and hit another 150-200 games before we re-evaluate if I'm ready for the $30s. I hope this decision is ok with Borg and Broker....as I want them to know that they are making a real solid investment not just financially, but into a real person who will be able to grow into something they can be proud of...... No poker. No poker videos. No poker TV. No Tagpoker forum lurking! I'll see you guys on the 1st of April just like ruben and best of luck to all you guys! Much love, z1 p.s BMM GL @ the 30s bruv you deserve it. p.p.s Congrats to ChrisB, leaving your job is pretty ballsy mate. You only live once...nice work so far! p.p.p.s Chin up JamEaze & chin up ICEMAN p.p.p.p.s Little fish_you dont need any advice...keep it up mate!
p.p.p.p.p.s This is a lot of p's...well done Reseal, predicted $2000 by the time he gets back to uni..woop woop! |
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| golden |
nice post. great results so far. keep crushing. | ||
| The Little Fish |
Have a good break mate and i'll see you on the 1st! Don't be crushing it too hard when you return! lol. | ||
| z1s6arn |
Current Stats_end of week 3:
Overview: Having those 12 days off has changed everything mentally. I found at around day 6/7 I was itching to come back which is exactly what I was expecting to happen. haha I found myself playing one or two $1 SNGs for a bit of fun. I had a long think about where Deepstacks are going for me which maybe a bit of insight for those in a similar scenario. I initially used them because I could make mistakes and quite easily grind my way back from losing half my stack against the micro stakes players. Looking back they were great training wheels. They gave me a great sense of confidence and more time learning the tendencies of each player because you could play some many hands without too much pressure. On another plus side there was plenty of action. Now its different. The edges I had at the $2s-$10s seem to have faded out and I'm now finding I cant get away with the things that were so profitable in the past. Now at the $20s the wait times are longer and I'm told they will get even longer which is massively going to reduce volume. So I'm going back to the reg speeds. I would have had to transfer to reg speeds anyway...so I thought it would be easier to do it now than having to jump when at the $80s and have lots of problems re-adjusting a well honed deepstack style. More volume and all the vids out there are heads up of designed for reg speeds anyway which made life a tad harder at the deepstacks. Points that need to work on: Well this is interesting. I have played around 20-30 reg speeds and initially ran very well on the Saturday. Amazing how run good makes you feel invincible, must have made 6 buy ins in one night. Sunday came along and it truly showed me that I'm not as good a player I thought I was. Like kierk says...its easy money when you keep flopping strong hands.... I feel as though I have lost my step by step logical poker questions and routine. Nothing seems to be firing off in my mind. I'm not asking the right questions. I'm not remembering my lines and their lines. I don't identify a clear strategy, never mind recalibrating when villain changes gears. Most of the time I literally have no idea where I am in the hand, there's no notion of planning for future streets, if I'm over playing a hand, how much to bet and raise against player type and why etc etc. Nothing. Walking away last night truly showed me this wasn't just tilt. I've noticed I'm just playing at the tables going off all that theory I did before Christmas from Brokers foundation course. I know I should review games and I always plan to, but there's always that awkward feeling in the pit of my chest that puts it off because it sounds hard. The same applies for learning new theory. There is soo much theory that I literally have no idea where to start. Do I go with bluffing/semi bluffing...end game....meta game....do I watch a video and a LAG or one by tight pot stabber. In a nut shell there is no plan. Its wake up play at the tables and go over a one a weak leak finder and hope and pray I can beat the $20s. This little self deprecation does sound a little over the top and its funny because if I look at my graph its got a nice upwards ramp to it...but I know there is so much I could be doing to improve my game. What I'm going to take from it is to start planning what I want to achieve each month, week and day and do it in slow bite sizes until doing a review or developing a specific part of my game become second nature, habitually and not feel like a slog. Tilt is another factor. I'm getting sick and tired of tilting and my play going out the window and losing the next 24hrs because I cant think straight and then my whole self confidence goes out the window. Not only that but if you've spent the last six months honing strategy and +EV moves all of this work is almost useless if your brain can't access it if its in an emotionally reactive state. So expect a researched article on this topic shortly. April Goals:  Move to the $30s on May 1st
Research tilt and implement a strategy to counter during the onset of tilt and after effects of full blown tilt
Develop a new daily schedule to incorporate game reviews/discuss hands in forum and theory (new and old) (VISUALIZATION)
Overhaul your game from the ground up (so there is a point of reference rather than being lost in a sea of information and ideas) and begin from the basics and put the information on small cards for regular review...
Set topic specific goals to be completed and practised through out the month and type up on this thread for comments and improvements.
Stop setting money and volume goals = PRESSURE
Rewards for reaching milestones
Bankroll: Starting bankroll: +$200 End of week 3 BR: +$245.87 (to be submitted when BR exceeds $300 at end of week 4) |
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| U Cook Socks |
Regarding the study....
When you feel like you are now (not quite sure why, cos you seem to be doing okay) but anyway, I know what it feels like, I mean I have quite a bit of experience, but I still have days/weeks where I feel like I am completely lost. I go back over the fundamentals, it's amazing how keeping things simple works so well. So start at the beggining. You need to sort your preflop ranges out. I don't know what style you play, limping early on, or whatever, doesn't matter to much. What you are looking for early on are reads. If you have a standard set of opening ranges, and calling ranges preflop, then once you know a bit more about them, you can adjust them as needed. All of this stuff is included in Brokers course videos, so go over those again if you are unsure. You need different ranges for each type of player. For example, I wouldn't reccomend opening 43o v a complete station, it just doesn't flop well enough, or win at showdown very often, but it is a pretty standard open v a Tag. That's just a basic example. Then move on to the post flop play. Exploiting different player types, again it is all in the Videos you got with the course. If you have questions, then ask them, you have to really great players at your disposal with advice you would pay a fortune for anywhere else, so use them. The same hand needs to be played very differently v different players, for example, you can get 2 or even 3 streets of value with middle pair v a station, where as v a nit, you really are looking at one once he calls your flop bet. Obviously good hand reading comes in to this. So go through you HH and start defining players, and putting them on a range on each street, based on what you already know about them. Then End game, there is a tonne of information about this, littered over this site, and the internet in general. You get this right and you have a huge edge over players. Forget about meta game for now, you need to get the fundamentals right. We spoke about this before. It is absolutely vital you understand some concepts, like effective stacks. If you don't , even if you are beating the games, you will be leaving money at the tables I assure you. So just get back to basics, really get those fundamentals down, then you can add to your game, as I have know doubt you will be feeling more confident about things. GL |
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| z1s6arn |
Blazing...that has given me a really good place to start. Thankyou again! | ||
| U Cook Socks |
No problem, glad to help. Broker and Borg certainly helped me enough. That is the key think to remember, BrokerStar and Borg are exceptional players, you have a world of wisdom there at your disposal. You would pay $150 an hour for coaching from players of that standard on other sites. So use it wisely, listen to what they tell you, and you wont go far wrong. |
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| Reseal |
Very nice results so far mate. Good luck with your goals this month.
For tilt management, I recommend looking into stuff by Tommy Angelo (His Eightfold Path, and The Elements of Poker are good). Also Larry Phillips' books I hear are good. There's also The Poker Mindset by Matthew Hilger. GL again
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| BetMagicMoney |
Really nice man keep up the awsome work <3
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| z1s6arn |
On positive tilt now: Need to calm the fcuk down.....
There are two sides to this mistress. You have been warned! |
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| Brokerstar |
Where have you been man? Isn't it about time we reviewed some games?? Broker |
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| z1s6arn |
Yes....Right onto it...You'll hear from me shortly! (Before end of week) | ||
| z1s6arn |
I have just got a little pocket book that I have next to me. In it are the coin flips I won, the flips I was behind on and still won and hands I managed to get ahead in giving me the edge.....
I flick through it every time villain sucks out or gets a better preflop hand and I open it up and I look at all the hands I won in similar situations: Then I go oh yerrrr.... Who says luck has no memory now Mr kierkegaard!?! Works wonders on putting things in perspective and the tilt just vanishes.....pooof! |
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| z1s6arn |
Ermmm for all those newbies....
I have played a couple of 9 man sngs over the last few days after a grind. You know for s*its and giggles.... Hmmmm. $2 1st place...then I was like well lets see if you an do it again??? $2 1st place then went I will see what the fives are like....and again??? $5 2nd place then I was like wtf lets try the $10s $10 1st place TOTALLY STOKED.....profit of almost 2x$20 buy ins wooop woop! anyone new to HU SNGs learning heads up TRANSFORMS YOUR SKILL LEVEL for end game in final 3! I remember trying to remember formulas and huds and this and that and trust me...nothing is better than taking Brokers foundation course and playing 1000+ HUSNGS then go back to 9 mans and sit back and enjoy the banter coz the players heavily lacking in post flop skills..... yeah its a small sample size but after playing for half a year I now just know what to look for and how to exploit...makes you feel damn goood! On a side note....playing my best and I now have a clearer idea of how to replicate A game consistently.....you'll understand the change when you see my graphs on sunday and I will throw out what I'm running through my mind as I play for newbies to understand what level of thinking it takes to beat the mid stakes.....which if you start now at the micro/low stakes you'll fly through the stakes....its all about training your mind to habitually (without having to remind yourself ) ask the right questions at the right time and memory plays a huge roll in the process..... I also find playing fewer games but at your best reaps a greater return than slightly higher volume when getting tired......but others find the other way around works for them better (like ChrisB for instance)........so find what works for you....anyway 67% ROI day woot woot! |
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| tmle09 |
nice post always good to go back to the fundamentals |
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| z1s6arn |
Ive just played an 18 man and 45 man and got busted. But I seem to be able to beat the 9 mans. Another 1st place of course. Then I was like hmmmmmm
So Ilooked at some of the $50s to see the calibre of players. Almost every player was a fish on SS. Not looked further into it but but but...theres some scope for investigation..... P.s To broker. I was playing 9 mans today to have a mental break from the HU. |
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| U Cook Socks |
I thought you had just had a long break
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| z1s6arn |
You cheeky monkey Blazzing!
I have been SUPER THINKING in the heads up its flipping tiring!! Just wanted to chill on some 9 mans before my final day to make some serious money before my end of week update! |
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| z1s6arn |
Below is a response to a player that I would like other players to read.....Comments and ideas appreciated...
Response by Adapt n Evolve.. I had a similar stint on my French full tilt account. I had a list longer than yours my friend. Maybe triple in length with beats like it.... I can assure you you are not alone. There was quite a big life lesson from it...not just poker. By writing out all my bad beats...it began to tilt me more and more and more....as I would play I wud constantly worry that full tilt was rigged or I was just going to get sucked out on. Even you have become self aware and written that this has caused you to tilt and get lucky sucking out yourself. IF you wite down all the times you were beaten then your mind is focussed on losing and how bad life is treating you. This will really effect your game mate and it looks like you may now be more inclined to go down the coin flipping road to prove to yourself your jinxed..... Maybe maybe not..... Now never ever write another bad beats list again and build a habit of writing a good beats list of where you got it in good and it held or you coin flipped and won or you got it in behind and sucked out...... Buy a little pocket book and always have it open next to your comp and write in the good hands.... like 66 vs AK and you know that means you know a low pocket pair held up...or you hit tips on flop and he hit the same trips but your kicker was better so you write better trips kicker vs same trips etc etc Keep rereading this list if a bad beat comes along......and reminding yourself of all the times the poker gods backed you instead..... Great example I got sucked out with QQ vs KJs. He hit K. Another against a fishtard -52% he had a open ended draw and called off his stack on turn vs my 2 pair. He hit on the river...I read my notes and thought...thats poker....then noticed a hand where I called an all in with AJs vs AK on a sng and caught a J on the river.....but I kept focussing on all my winning moments....it keeps you focussed and calm...... If you do it for the rest of your poker career it will help you massively in the long term....keep doing it and trust me...if you do it for a day or week then forget and go back to the start of this thread then you have let your subconscious take right back over and you'll lose alot of money/reduce your winnings considerably..... Your call.... p.s A note from Cog dissonance and some of my own thoughts....When you are in a preflop flipping situation.... If you shove and he calls the moment the card appear preflop...put your hands over your eyes and rock your head upwards and dont ever look at the flop or find out what happened. Always in that space of time prepare how you will feel and what you will think when the hand ends. I always remind myself of why I shoved or why I called and if I win then great and if I suck out I visualize how I want to feel. If you dont have a plan of how you want to feel at then end and it doesnt go your way.. again you will tilt.... Never look at the hand history to find out what was on the flop. IF you look and he sucked out it will tilt you. IF you are watching the flop it will make you emotional and needy which is actually tilting you. If you go back to the hand history that information will tilt you. You never drop your head because its associated with depression and defeat so always keep your head up. When you put your hands over your eyes its naturally associated with a suprise and excitement. So be aware of this and train yourself to think calm and serious thoughts. Say a few words to yourself. Like calm, relaxed and professional. No big deal. I got it in good and I made the right decisions etc etc... This is universally applied advice to all poker players to learn how to maintain a calm focussed/objective and positive demeanour at all times.... Note: I DID THIS VERY THING AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS BR THREAD! We have all done it and been there! |
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| z1s6arn |
Current stats_end of week 4:
Overview: Deep thought process produced a really solid winning streak. At top I started to get tired and donk off a few buy ins and ran a little bad. At the top top I thought I would play some $1 turbos to get rid of my tilt! Sigh. I won 3/4 and I didn't feel any better! Although ROI for $20s is now at 12% which I'm super pleased with. Relief!
Detailed overview: At the end of week 3 I was really worried about my game. So I had a little cry and went back to the fundamentals. It was amazing how much I had forgotten. I had realised that I had not primed my mind to search for things, have a plan before any of the games and then implement an adapting strategy. I now look at everything the person is doing. Literally everything. I cannot describe how important this is. I'm asking questions before hes doing it and the more information I have I then start predicting what hes going to do. Remembering his lines and showdown is sooo damn important. I never used to be able to remember...but now I'm like he min raised donked pot donked full pot and showed down top pair with ok kicker. Or he Cbet one barrell and checked down with air. So I know one barrel equals weak, so what does he do when hes weak how can I exploit and does he mix up his lines from time to time. I memorize the board textures and how he plays every board texture. I memorize his exact bet sizes. I look for any unusual lines and ask is this super strong or air. Or rather I ask...how does he play monsters, top pair, middle pair, bottom pair, pocket pairs, A high, monster draws and draws and finally air......I categorize everything and look for lines that link closely to a range...Accuracy Accuracy Accuracy...I wanna read this guys soul! Memory is absolutely key to this. Every hand, most actions, tendencies/habits and frequencies. Its all so important. Before I would just get a feel for the guy and build a basic idea of how to exploit. Now its really rigorous. The final tool in my arsenal which is the icing on the cake is planning and preparing for expected and unexpected outcomes. Not just big hands EVERY HAND. Every play. Over and over again until it becomes an automated habit and fast. Right now I'm slow and clumsy and get tired quickly and sometimes my mind wanders off and I come back and go ahhh it happened again auto pliot. If I see a flop. I will ask what happened preflop. Is this a limped, raised or 3 bet pot. How have these pots gone on previous hands. Is he IP or OOP. How has he behaved in this size pot on this flop texture and in this position to me. What hand have I got and if I do this or he does this why is he doing it and what do I expect him to do. If he does it then what is my plan for the next street and what size will the pot be. What is my bet size going to be and why this bet size and what does it look like to the oppoenent and has the opponent seen this bet size before. Now if a dead card turns up...whats the plan, or if this card turns up whats the plan and what range can I put him on and how can I test if he hits yet still get value for my hand. What is the player type and if he does soemething unexpected...why would he do it what is he doing it with and how often has he behaved like this and is there the possibility of tilt....so now whats my plan BEFORE he does this. Planning for future streets and rationalizing why you are going to do what you do and why hes doing what hes doing and having a decision preplanned before an unexpected situation is like a golden key to this game. Not only that if I plan for the next street and I have an already made decision for what I'm going to do of a certain card or unexpected response comes based on a read and I'm wrong I even plan how Im going to feel before tilt comes. If you play bad you tilt. If you play your best, trust your read and decide to go with a hand and have had it all worked out and are still wrong YOU DONT TILT. I always practice this on HH's in my morning warm up. If my memory starts to cloud up and I stop planning and predicting my game goes to shit whether it be $5s to $20s. You cant beat a fish or a reg without this thought process unless the cards go your way (except the old TP). It massively reduced my profits and when tilt comes along you can kiss goodbye to your logic coz I just blew off 3 buys last night and now KNOW the difference in level of thought process and self control after small tilt and calm relaxed focussed player. So for me bad play has known to tilt me and a lag who I choke to 300 chips who comes back also tilts me. Things to work on indeed. Points that need to work on: Practice memory
Practice planning and predicting and rationalising decisions for unexpected and expected situations
Maintain a basic find fact system limping and watching
When you learn theory review from MEMORY and then see what you can and cant remember.
Work on strategy for each player type
Notice when you feel off game/ tired and STOP
A game and low volume is better than B-game and high volume_learn to hold A game for as long as you can and then stop after fatigue
Goals: When total lifetime profit reaches $1000 move up the $30s and reward yourself.
When you have first profitable week with $30s use some of that money for a night out with the boys to celebrate...
Aim for 12 games/day at A-game stop if tilted and stop at 12 regardless
Bankroll: Starting bankroll carried from last week: +$245.87 End of week 4 bank roll: +$510.40 Coaching profit for Wks 3&4: +$155.20 [submitted to Borg7 11/4/2011] p.s GL to ChrisB on such an EPIC challenge! p.p.s Problem officer...exciting times...my best you on the prop challenge! CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! |
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| Ljava |
I red the whole topic and like the way you are doing this! Keep up good work. GL | ||
| z1s6arn |
Thankyou Ljava! I would feel so lucky to be able to consistently win at the $50s as a platform to go for the $80s and $100s. To be able to make a living would be an absolute dream come true and a magnificent feeling of personal achievement. You have no idea what I have risked to do this. My respect to others who have also put everything they ever new on the line to follow the same dream. And trust me this journey started from playing 1000 $1 and $2 HU SNGs on my z1s6arn account (.com and .FR) to make sure I had self control and to prove to myself that Brokers theory works was worth every damn lonely second! GL buddy...I shall be watching you! |
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| Brokerstar |
Yes this thread is really well organized and structured which shows that you're approaching the games in the right way!
Look forward to out 1-1 session tomorrow. Broker |
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| Ljava |
Totally agree with you. Not just in poker, but everybody's dream is to make money by working what they love to do. Hope you will succeed in your plan!
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| JamEaze |
The post above from yesterday afternoon is a real eye opener, so many things in there that I need to work harder on.
In particular this: "Before I was just get a feel for the guy and build a basic idea of how to xploit. Now its really rigorous." How do you remember all this stuff in game - do you have a checklist written down, or do you type all the stuff into the player notes box? Would be interested to learn more about what you are doing and how you are executing it. Oh and I almost forgot.... gogogogogo!!!! Top work so far that man! |
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| z1s6arn |
Jameaze.....Its in the experimental phase......
Let me work on it and I shall write up the best way I can explain it before the end of the month...... Take care man! z1 |
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| z1s6arn |
Update_Last week:
Been really really poorly last week.  I didnt play any games. I've spent the last week flushing out my system from an infection and drinking organic juice. No food nothing, just water and juice. I'm feeling better and will go on some light solids on thursday. Might try some games tonight or tomoz.
On another note I just broke up with my long term partner and its pretty emotional.... 
Apologies for not being able to play. Lets see what happens this week. GL to everyone and my best goes to anyone out there who has money locked up FT or PS. =( z1 |
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| two2go |
Sorry to hear that, hope things get turned around for you. | ||
| U Cook Socks |
This is going to sound harsh, but it is the best advice you will ever get. I have been there trust me. Man up, put all your efforts in to your poker (or anything else you want to do) and find someone better. Simple as that. |
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| BetMagicMoney |
sorry to here that mate, just try to keep your chin up as it always gets better round the corner. Also sorry for not getting back to your PM i've been on holiday  will send a message now <3
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| z1s6arn |
Thanks boys! | ||
| ProblemOfficer |
just keep it going, never give up! | ||
| z1s6arn |
woot woot! Just hit the $1000 dollar mark for my lifetime profits! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
I'm moving up to the $30s! woot woot! 
p.s To Blazzing and BBM. You two gentlemen have a great skill set to crush these games! Never forget that you've done it many times before and you'll do it many times again! |
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| BetMagicMoney |
w00t <3
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| forced |
well, i've passed over this forum for the last few weeks? months? dont even know how long.... this is a very good read,... im going to have to read it again... you make some very posts.
good luck! |
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| z1s6arn |
Thats a very nice thing to say forced. Thankyou! | ||
| z1s6arn |
I tried for one more $20 and lost 3 in a row.....Nooooooooooooooooooooo
I have to climb back again before I can try the $30s 
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| z1s6arn |
MOVING UP TO THE $30s
I just blew $120 yesterday and God blessed me with it all back today! So BR: +$296.60 I'm hoping for rake back this morning and if it exceeds $3.40 I'm moving to the $30s for good and I vouch never ever ever to play another $20 game again unless I'm playing the $200s and I wanna take the piss! I'm also relieved that my transition from the deepstacks to the reg speeds was really smooth. Anyway if my RB doesnt exceed $3.40 I'm playing some $2 games ok! I'm not losing another $20 buy in! Current stats just before moving up to the $30s: 
Reward: I'm off to go and buy myself a really expensive pair of jeans. Been waiting for two years to get some good ones! Wooooot woot! Thats my way of drawing a line in the sand and telling my mind its done a good job and I have achieved something to be proud of and I've got something great to show for it that I can wear everyday! Health: Feeling better now. Just had some solid food today for the first time in over a week as I've been juice fasting. Mind is sharp and I've been for a jog and stretch to clean out my system after being a poorly boy. Trying to focus on the poker and putting my split with my ex out of my mind. Weathers great. Life's great and I'm playing well! That's all I can ask for really.
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| golden |
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| U Cook Socks |
Nice one mate. You are doing really well, really pleased for you.
Glad to see you took some of my advice. Plenty more fish in the sea, and all that. If you wanna do some sweats, it might help me out a bit, and I think I have enough knowledge to help you out too. |
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| BetMagicMoney |
go go go mate
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| rubenfox |
good game z1
keep crushin and you'll be at the 50's in no time! |
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| z1s6arn |
Playing the $30s on FT and its a friday night. Place is riddled with fish man! yyyyeeeeehahaaaa | ||
| doodiewiz |
Haha goodluck dude. I usually check this thread. You've moved up again. I'm trying to catch you! Somehting to aim for...
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| z1s6arn |
Thats exactly what I did to get here.....keep chasing buddy....hope you catch me at the +$500s coz I'm not stoppin until I get there!!!! |
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| z1s6arn |
Just PM me Blaze if you want to do some sweats together! |
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| doodiewiz |
Haha hope i do too! | ||
| z1s6arn |
Quick update for my first day at the $30s:
I played solid poker and came away with about 4 buy ins. There were a few suck outs that started to knaw at me BUT BUT BUT.....I remembered to note all the hands that went well where I got it in good or bad or things just turned out well.....So the following hands held up: 88 v AK AT v JT 99 v K9 AA v 88 99 v 33 AQ v Q4 He 3 bet and called a shove at 10/20 with 1500 chips_wtf! Straight into Trips Middle pair held v Monster draw on flop KK v A3 n.b I NEVER note suck outs or shoving into a better range or coolers. Its life its poker its pointless to do so... if it was a luck based situation I disregard it....otherwise I use these situations to see if I can improve my game if I and only I made a mistake if I forgot to use a read.... Now why am I writing this list? To remind myself and you guys to focus on the positives. It keeps you in a winning mindset rather than focussing on bad beats etc etc. Of course I had some bad beats but I want to convey the importance of focussing on the winning side. First it proves you can win, second its amazing to look at when you get sucked out on and you have a real frame of reference to cross compare rather than thinking your constantly getting sucked out on. The bad beats or shoving into the top of their range moments fades rather than eating away at you slowly after a session and even during the next game thus tilting you. As a bi product it also shows you what a weak range villain is prepare to go all in with at the $30s. Its only my first day...but for any micro and low stakes players...you dont need to be Blom or Durr or Borg to beat these levels.....I'm just a normal dude with a normal brain thinking normal things that I copied off Broker.....end of....oh and hes ginger as well.....
Take care all and get yourself an A6 pocket book (keep it next to your comp with a pen) and put in your good beat and good moves and any good results so that its documented and at the forefront of your mind to induce a longer and more solid winning streak and game play! Final note: Got tired after playing 10 games. Target was 12. Recognised it and stopped myself from playing incase I played my B-game. Pleased I dont have to self exclude anymore and have the self control to know when enough is enough. Oh yeah and i got my first set of proper jeans. Levi 504's. I think its important reward yourself...something I never ever used to do. Very chuffed indeed!
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| BetMagicMoney |
very nice man
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| bptrippin |
Yea I always TRY to think of it like if i get sucked out on "that's one I'm owed" or if I suck out "that's one I've paid back" that kinda thing. Sometimes easier than done but works for me on the most part.
Great thread btw, have enjoyed reading
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| z1s6arn |
If a player can take at least one thing away from this thread to become a better player then I feel I've done a good job. Thanks for your kind comment bp. z1 |
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| z1s6arn |
Current Stats_end of week 5:
Overview: I was as usual apprehensive about moving up the the $30s. Its a buy in level that is right on the boundary where I could theoretical live off which is one of my lifes dreams. Its my version of the X-factor as it were. I know no need to get the handkerchiefs out just yet!
Some tricks I learned. Sometimes I get a read off the villain and knew he would be loose enough to call a street ( I am preflop aggressor)...he does then I 2 barrel (dead turn forgot to notice it was a dud turn card)...he calls (does not raise)...then for some reason I just know he will fold a third barrel (I'm watching board texture and I'm pause betting showing deliberate intention to represent value)...why because I have an honest image...n.b to reader...its rare for me to do this....oh another one is when you 3 bet and hit a semi co-ord board and you two barrel OOP and the turn and river showed two over cards and the board does NOT co-ordinate...I know I'm beat sooo I love pausing and betting their exact stack size to get the fold when I have spewed (my 2 barrells are considered bet sizes but I know he isnt super strong). Again not something I ever do often BUT is highly profitable under RARE circumstances. I do this one in every 10-20 games if that against certain opponent types... usually Tags I'm not sure if its because the US players are no longer playing but I personally found the $30s very similar to the $20s although its early days and a very small sample size I'm quite confident being able to maintain a steady rhythm at this buy in level. I consequently emailed broker to ask for the go ahead for the $50s out of haste. I woke up the next day I realised what I had asked for. Sobering up from my positive tilt and probable self delusion I sent another email apologizing and set a plan to play the $30s during the next month and to re-evaluate in another 5 weeks. Anyway well I played another six games this night and I yet again found the villains fairly exploitable. So I calmly decided to have a 2-4 buy in shot at the $50s to see what happens...... So my overall impression at the $50s is it is definitely more tricky....but lets see what happens when I have a solid graph with 200x$50s showing and see if the regs sit me then? First game I was sat by a reg He raised IP 3x the BB every single hand. I looked back on past players that did this and found that when I play carefully I get run over soooo I started 3-betting the crap out of him like every few hands (note: these were solid hands). I got called with AK and AJ (I told u they were solid hands) and hit both boards. Villain folded and consequently noted that I 3 bet too much in the chat box..of which I replied you 3x raise OOP TOO MUCH! He agreed. So I 3 bet again with another AJo and he shoved with K2o. I snapped called of course and he wrote that he had 2 live cards. I smiled to myself as I took his buy in and he wouldnt sit me again.
I applied the same technique to a semi fish semi reg.... and he 4 bet with 88 and I insta shoved AQ and held. Sooo maybe it was just nerves and I upped the aggression like when you do in your first race at school and you over do it. Either way these dudes are not going to run over me and now they know it. So it was a sunday night, had a crack at the $50s and stopped when ahead because I wanted to walk away with a positive first impression that these things can be beaten. There is nothing worse than have a negative experience with something you encounter for the very first time. It takes more work to turn that image around..a bit like always remembering to make a good first impression otherwise the other person will think your a c*ck for the rest of your life unless you work EXTRA hard to turn it around.... ..no offense Broker 
Detailed over view topic_Nutrition: So last weak I was really poorly. About eight months ago I stumbled a across the raw food diet. It principles completely contradicted EVERYTHING I had known about eating except eat plenty of fruits and vegetables which we all know but never do! Anyway I've been at University for five years now and over that period of time I have experienced my weight slowly creep up and up and up and did I mention...up! I noticed that sitting in front of a computer or a drawing board designing buildings was making me really sick. In my prime (which I should not be saying at 25) I was about 83kg. Well by the time I started to do something about this I was weighing in at 95.6kg and felt really lethargic all the time. So I decided to put another training programme together to see if I could lose the weight and speed up my slowing metabolism as I began to realise I was right at the point where youngish people start piling the pounds on and before they know it they are clinically obese holding a beer can watching coronation street or top gear. Its called a pot belly to you Americans. Anyway I understood as an ex- rower than cardiovascular exercise in large enough quantities would slowly burn more calories than I was consuming. By the way this worked when I was training as a full time athlete. So I tried and exercised an hour a day (trust me only yoga was an hour and the rest was no more than 30 mins)..yoga or cycling or rowing for 15 mins and it was nowhere near enough to burn diddly squat. This really worried me because who the hell has got the time to train two ore more hours a day apart from Broker??? Basically doing 30 mins of exercise does not burn fat very quickly and I dont care what you say its a really stupid way to lose weight. Great for fitness, flexibility, emotional well being but NOT calorie burning, unless and only unless your long distance training consistently or doing exceptionally high intensity workout (HR > 165bpm) for about 30mins to one hour five to six days a week! So I then looked into diet and I have no idea how I stumbled across the raw food diet but I did. Now this is were it gets interesting. I found some raw foodists actively discussing their ideas. It was suggested you would lose an incredible amount of weight and go down to the weight your body is genetically designed for. You will feel amazing. Your skin clears. Your body starts to heal itself. You will really start to have boundless energy......etc etc They said that you had to completely stop eating the following foods to become a 100% raw foodist (this is the super extreme 100% list ok...few people go completely 100%)...prepare to be suprised: 1) No meat...esp red..poultry and finally fish 2) No dairy products 3) No white flour or bakery syled products..eg Bread! 4) No refined sugar....sweets/crisps/chocolate/cakes 5) No heavy oils 6) No packaged food whatsoever 7) No processed food including cereals 8] No alcohol based products (yes forced no beer mate) 9) No non-organic produce 10) No pasta/white rice or potatoes. 11) NO COOKED FOOD! Bare with me ok...no preconceived ideas on this thread! Below paragraph inserted **edit 28/4/2011 To any new readers. After further research the raw vegan diet is deficient in certain areas and will eventually fail although its an excellent foundation that needs building on the results from people attempting this diet prove it needs some heavy re-thinking? Although cough cough I expect this would be explicitly denied by respective authors. I am currently researching further. I read this mouth wide open and thought what the hell am I gonna eat. I'm gonna die on this lifestyle. I kept reading as you do and this is what you can eat all of which should be as fresh and as close to organic as possible. 1) Any leafy greens 2) Vegetables 3) Fruit 4) Nuts 5) Seeds 6) Herbs 7) Some oils 8] Whole grains 9) Lots of filtered water_(remove chlorine out of the mains water) Ermmmm.......Ermmmm what the.....???? Anyway they said that they had been on this diet for 4-10 years and nobody else did it and they've taken all the blood test and have perfect working bodies. They said you don't have to be militant 100% raw foodist. A treat here and there. Anyway I stuck a close as I could about 75 raw/25 cooked and normal and I was really scared and below is a graph showing you what happened for impact. The list looks really short but there are loads of types of fruit and vegetables that you can eat LOADS! Oh yeah and your taste buds change and food binges disappear as all the old addictive low nutrient content food is slowly flushed out your system. BOOOOOOOM! -16.7KG OR -36.7LBS! Graph of weight (kg) and exercise (mins) against time (wks): 
Graph key: The bottom axis means one week has passed for every square. So about 68 weeks have passed since I started to log and watch my weight and training volume. So thats about 1 year and 4 months. The first 33 weeks was me trying to use the old style exercise routine and as you can see I actually put on about 5kg as the graph starts going up from week 1. This was not cool peeps. The vertical axis has weight on it and each square going up is worth 5 minutes of exercise time. Green: Rowing on rowing machine Blue: Swimming Yellow: Yoga (good female 2 male...trust me..cant go fishin in the desert lads!) Purple: Cycling Red: Jogging Black: Weight training Give or take I had the time to train about 3 hrs per week which is nowhere near the 7 hours you need to at least start burning fat. If you look at the top of the graph my maximum weight was 95.6kg which is were I threw the towel in and gave the raw food diet ago as I had literally ran out of options.... The weight just fell off me. Literally! I was eating enough not to be hungary and every week I would just lose weight faster than a -52% fish ships his bankroll! So in conclusion your diet is the MAIN determining factor for your body weight NOT level of physical activity except in extreme athletic conditions. Then at about 82kg I slowly start putting weight back on. I was eating sweats chocolate, cooked food, drinking 6 cups of tea. basically I was very slowly reverting back to my old habits. This put weight on, it made me feel terrible and was really slowing me down (COSTING ME BUYS INS!) and you dont even notice it happening. Anyway I had a break from poker came back and fell ill after a week which was very recent. I had constipation for the first time in 20 years. I was really uncomfortable not going to do the business for three days and really scary as your supposed to go twice a day and a good body should go 3 times per day. You should go soon after you eat a meal when you wake up. Readers you may laugh or whatever, its a topic nobody likes to talk about, but I have no shame trust me. I felt really tired, uncomfortable, irritable and unable to concentrate (could not get out of bed). Perfect condition if you want to become a fish at the tables. Anway....I learned something new on top of the raw food diet and that was fasting and enemas. Of course I put this to the test last week and dropped 3 kg in ONE week and felt the best I ever did in my life afterwards. So during the EXTRA 9 days I had off I researched fasting..why it works how to do it safely and why you need an enema during a fast??? Why Raw...why fasting...why enemas? I want you to note that I do not hold any qualification in medicine or nutrition and I will only discuss things that I have experienced by experimentation and personal first hand experience. I want to be a serious winning player and so I have decided to sort out the basics. Broker trains, Borg trains.... Yes it can be done by neglecting yourself but I know who I would rather be. I want to feel incredible and be on my A-game every game. I want to be smashing up the $200s (and the birds) because my concentration is that much better than some fat dude behind a screen cramming dunkin donuts (or tescos frozen ready meals! ) and what have you down his neck? I find poker is really exhausting on the mind and body and this stuff allows me to keep on going and going and going...instead of feeling old and tired and prone to getting ill all the time. I treat poker no differently compared to a high performance athlete who trains every day to go to the world championships...... IF I want to be a solid reg. I find in life I always get out what I put in..... I try to make it fun though ok....The principles are very similar. This is a very competitive sport where the stakes are not gold medals and national pride but real tangible life changing monetary sums and MY personal pride!
I'm reading this and I just want the reader to note this is a thread of how I'm approaching the goal of becoming a high stakes player. If you take on some of the principles and they work for you..then great....if you learn something then great if not...no big deal. By no means should you feel the need to do any of this. Its my personal journey of self discovery and my way of sharing my personal experiences and opinions to anybody that maybe interested....... Firstly I want you to note this is not something that happened over night. Its a life long experiment and I intend to keep on learning and trying out new things for the rest of my life. Micro adjustments....bit by bit you know how it is.... Right the why.....below is a overly simplified set of reasons for why....you want more info...you know what to do.... So I have decided to stay at about 75% raw. I mainly juice all my fruit and veg to get the vitamins and minerals in high doses and I turn all the fruit and veg into smoothies to get the calories...its really easy to do...digest...makes you feel full and isnt a ball ache like trying to eat a raw carrot. You get all your carbs from the fruit. Protein from veg, nuts etc...I'm going to look into this further about protein, calories the basics.....etc...but I have one piece of fish per week....very small quantities of dairy..potatoes and rice.....I've just massively reduced the amount of cooked foods and upped the fruits,veg and nuts in my diet. I used a juice fast to give my digestive system a break after 25 years of working full time everyday and did two enemas per day (sticking 2L of water up your crack hole is not for the faint hearted..but really easy once you know how and is actually a very important procedure!) to clear out all the toxins.... I'll eat a meal with friends on occasion and wont go mad.....my energy levels are solid....I feel better able to concentrate and my level of poker is confident and I'm really really motivated...... haha on a side note. All the girls living in with me (students yeh) have all started running and I've noticed a considerable increase in fruit and vegetables in our fridge...lol...common sense boys and girls.... So in my head...  GOOD DIET = A-GAME + + $$$
Week 6 goals: Maintaining warm up routine including theory, introspection and one video
Volume goal of 12games/day
Stay at the $30s and if I'm running well play 2-4 $50s fri-sunday [Fish days 20:00-00:00 GMT!]
Maintain healthy diet
Exercise daily
Bankroll: Starting bankroll: +$300 End of week 5 bank roll: +$650.77 Coaching profit for Wk 5: +$75.40 [yet to be submitted to Borg7 on 25/4/2011] New weekly 10 buy in BR for $50s shot taking whilst regging $30s: +$500
p.s Hope y'all run like God! Take care! z1 |
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| ChrisB |
Weight loss is about consuming less calories than you burn, no? So obviously when you are restricted to basically vegetables and fruit you will really struggle to get over your calorie equilibrium for the day, no?
Personally I don't think it matters as all if you are living off chips and fried fish or vegetable leaves as long as you control the amount of calories...needless to say I'm horribad at this and just live off tesco frozen dinners. Fairly easy way to control calories
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| two2go |
I want to read it all but there's just too much text lol. Sexy graph was enough for me. Congrats on your results so far and continued gl with the shots at the 50's. | ||
| Brokerstar |
Yes, yes, yes looking good that man..
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