Low blinds all-in on the River - What do you do??

Kilokes · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Posts: 15

So I've been on an epic downswing, as you can see in the bankroll forum, and I've been spending some time analyzing my game. I came across 2 situations where I played differently and lost money in both. I would like some second opinions as to which play you think was correct, or if both were incorrect? Any feedback is appreciated.

-Kilokes

Hand 1:
Cake Poker, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
Summary: Hand 11. Opponent has been very tight-passive and no large pots have yet been played.

BTN: 1,475
Hero (BB): 1,525

Pre-Flop: (30) 5

5

dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN calls 10, Hero checks

Flop: (40) 4

7

5

(2 Players)
Hero bets 20, BTN raises to 40, Hero calls 20

Turn: (120) J

(2 Players)
Hero bets 80, BTN calls 80

River: (280) 3

(2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,335 and is All-In, Hero folds

Results: 280 Pot (280 Rake)
BTN showed 9

5

Hand 2:
Cake Poker, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
Summary: Second hand. No reads on opponent.

BB: 1,520
Hero (BTN): 1,480

Pre-Flop: (30) 9

8

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 20

Flop: (120) 8

9

2

(2 Players)
BB bets 60, Hero raises to 180, BB calls 120

Turn: (480) A

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 300, BB calls 300

River: (1,080) 7

(2 Players)
BB bets 980 and is All-In, Hero calls 940 and is All-In

Results: 2,960 Pot (2,960 Rake)
BB showed J

T

Hero showed 9

8

BetMagicMoney · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject:

first don't post results as its hard to give honest feedback!

hand1) you can reraise flop, or call either is fine imo, however if you call you should be CR the turn as you let villian fire another street possibly with a bluff, leading here makes are hand look super strong! on the river im always betting as there so much EV to be had from worst hands!

hand2) is a fold on the river, aprt from the lead on the flop villian basically takes the line, c/c, c/c , jam, which is possibly one of the most face up lines in HU poker (he always has it) so folding the river is our play here!
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doodiewiz · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject:

2nd hand agree with betmagic. 1st hand I'd reraise flop quite large ready to GII and bet turn large. I wouldn't want to give him the chance to check behind if he's on a drawing hand. Would sometimes check though if he likes to fire again but if you reraised flop I thinks he's more likely to then check behind the turn rather then bet if he is drawing. I'd fold that river too. When he showed that hand just make a note of it and try to use the info. Just my 2 cents.. Smile

Kilokes · Newbie Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Posts: 15

Thanks for the feedback. Looking back at hand 1, for some reason I thought I had bet 40 and he called. I had planned to c/c the river but when he shoved I strongly felt that I was beat. And you're right, when he min re-raised to 40 i should have re-raised the flop and check-raised the turn, hoping by that point it would be all in. I don't regret folding that flop as there were 4 to a straight and 3 hearts by the time we hit the river. As for hand 2, I think I played the flop/turn OK bein' that he was on a draw and was not getting the immediate odds to call, however, he clearly had the implied odds when he hit his hand and I called. Even if he hadn't hit, with the way he played it I should probably be folding regardless of what came on the river (other than an 8 or 9).

-Kilokes

Simba · Enthusiast Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 84

If we're going to raise, I like quite a sizable flop raise in hand 1, not a dinky little one. With so much drawiness out there, there's just so much he can call with. Plus it gives our hand a lot of deception value - how often do your opponents 3-bet on the flop with a set? Very, very seldomly, unless they're playing on a high level for balance purposes, I imagine. Guys low down love to slowplay so much, so your line probably looks stronger here than if you 3-bet the flop.

YATHINNK · Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:24 am Post subject:

First hand I defo raise to like 160+ as he can have so much here that he flats with. There's loads of draws out there and I think just flatting is pretty bad. You can defo get it in on the flop against a draw or a 6 or something. The fact you say he's pretty passive probs means he has something here so try and get stacks in asap.

Second hand I bet bigger on the turn. He could float that board with an A as it's rather dry and he can also have draws as well. I think betting smaller sorta keeps in the lower parts of his range but you already have an 8 and a 9 so it cancels out a lot of his midpair range that calls a cr and leaves him with a draw or a float. A draw calls a bigger bet if he's a tool so I fire like 380 on the turn.

flatting two streets and lead shoving is a strong line to take so it looks like he's got there.

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