I need some advice...

chesslw · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: I need some advice...

Hi- I'm been crawling along since I lost my fulltilt roll, and lost even more will to grind lower stakes (I also won't have much time for poker come September).

Tbh I never was a volume player- I think i played over 20 husngs in a day 3 times in my life. Most of the time I play under 10, and sometimes a couple per day.

I just find it really hard to motivate myself to play. People spaz out when they are tilted- me, I do that when I get bored. E.g. I would doubled barrel versus stations on turn and river when they check flop, bet big on turn and half pot on river if draws brick- rather than taking a lower variance (probably optimal) line of only valuebet valuebet valuebet.

The good thing about me though is that I stop playing when tilted- so I basically never tilt.

How do you guys get into the mood for grinding? Any multitabling tips? I have "grinded" before in sngs/mtts (nothing like red-dog)/superturbos (mtt/sng/husng) etc, but just can't bring myself to grind non-superturbo hu Sad

kolonel · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:12 am Post subject:

I must admit, there are times i used to feel the same way.

I cant commit a lot of time to playing like the others that frequent here, but i have a goal of a minimum 6 games per session, 6 days a week which will give me a monthly total of around 140-150. Knowing that i am only playing this amount of games, doesnt lull me into thinking this is going to be a laborious grind at all. I am usually done in 1-1.5hours max per day to do other aspects of the game.

To start with, maybe watch one of the many videos available or even review a game where you were crushing to motivate yourself. Maybe break down the month on an expectation on what sort of $$$ you want to achieve, and work towards that at a daily pace.

At the end of the day, you are the only one that can motivate yourself to play, and if you cant, there are plenty of other hobbies to do besides poker that might interest you.
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U Cook Socks · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:43 am Post subject:

Sounds like Turbos may be for you. You can get about 5 an hour in on average on Stars (one table) so even if you only have a couple of hours a day, you can get 10 in without any problem.

I can't really give advice about multi tabling, cos I am rubbish at it, if you can play two tables without losing to much concentration, then going against the grain, I think it's a pretty good idea. You have to focus hard though, and I fail miserably (for now)

If you are going to play turbos, expect ups and downs more than you get in reg speeds (if you have played super turbos, then it prob wont be a prob for you)

There really is a lot to be said for just sitting down for a session of poker, with a time limit in mind (2 hours for example) and just playing without any actual volume goals in mind. That's how I try to do it. If I have 5 hours to play poker, I will play 2 hours, take a break, then go back for another 2 hours. Don't expect you to do that if you are short on time, but just cut the time scales down.
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NinjaReads · Grinder Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 164 Skype: ninjareads

I've had the same problem this month and it's probably because of low stakes regular games, they are mind numbing. The vast vast majority of the games are against brain dead retards who never fold so the games involve hardly any thinking and are not really poker, bluffing just turns into spew.

I've watched most of the low stakes videos on husng and none of my games are like those in the vids. It must be nice to raise, stab, take down a pot but 90% of my villains are playing cards and have virtually a 100% vpip, a high raise and 3bet along with a single figure percentage for folding post flop. Bottom pair is the nuts, gutshots are strong hands going nowhere, they'll chase runner runner. It's got to the stage that when I see them check post flop I think they're slowplaying. Surprised

I mark fish with a green colour on Stars and droolers dark green, the dark green gets a bashing. The sad thing this month is that the more retarded their play, the more Stars rewards them which makes it more of a grind and it's not fun having break even sessions against droolers.

It's probably because you rarely have a good hand in husng. bluffs are part of the game, not constantly typing "Do not bluff" in notes. No thinking, just robotic ABC dull poker can get a bit boring after a few hours.

I guess we have to move up where they respect our raises. ;o)

U Cook Socks · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:45 am Post subject:

chesslw · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the advice.

I definitely prefer turbos to reg speeds I think, despite I still have volume problems anyway with turbos.

Another thing with (especially deeperstacked) husngs is that it is so much more tiring than any other format. I mean I can watch tv and open msn whilst 8 tabling mtts/sngs, but I find it hard to just 2-table heads up.

Of course I love it when I don't need to make any hard decisions (e.g. when playing maniacs who open shove every hand).

But I suppose nothing is supposed to be easy...
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NinjaReads · Grinder Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 164 Skype: ninjareads

Yeah, I think turbos are the ones to play on Stars. I'm sure they play longer than the turbos on Tilt as they have a 10/20 level where Tilt started at 15/30 so there's plenty of poker to be played at the early stage to find out about your opponent. I also find the droolers slow down to minraising more once blinds hit 20/40+.

I've played a a good mixture of reg and turbs on stars and my roi is actually higher for the turbos so i think I'll stay with them and as Blazing says, the higher you go up, the longer the wait for reg games so may as well play and learn them now. But there's no harm in moving back to reg games if they're tilting you.

Try starting your session with a few micro Hypers then Turbos will feel slow like reg games. ;o) I played some Hypers last night. I'd had a few drinks and had an horrific session, losing 8 on the spin normal games, 62o cracking my Kings etc. I know I shouldnt' play after a drink, anyway I thought if you're going to suckout every game then may as well do it quicker but actually won my buyins back at the HTs, but I'm not going to continue with them after seeing other people's sick swings, I doubt i can handle it.

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